Author Topic: My recent engine seizure (Read 19869 times)

Pricecheck · « **Reply #15 on:** October 05, 2014, 02:30:46 PM »

What causes the tins to fail? I'd love a start from scratch but I think that will be it if I put a new topend on.

It needs a new crank. Maybe rod. Cases look good and tranny better be good. I guess I'll tinker with polishing my side covers while it's down!

I'd love to do the work myself but if I go 363 then it needs out of house attention.

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hontrx265r · « **Reply #16 on:** October 05, 2014, 02:42:16 PM »

I have a set of polished side covers forsale.

Pricecheck · « **Reply #17 on:** October 05, 2014, 03:04:16 PM »

Thanks hontrx265r. I think I'll pass. This will give me something to do during the winter.

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Pricecheck · « **Reply #18 on:** October 05, 2014, 03:09:06 PM »

Quote from: rsss396;43898

I may start welding tins when I have the time I f I do I want 80.00 plus shipping

That is some sexy welding!

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Pricecheck · « **Reply #19 on:** October 05, 2014, 04:19:32 PM »

I was thinking the cylinder wall could use just a hone until I saw this!

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Pumashine · « **Reply #20 on:** October 05, 2014, 04:39:01 PM »

Quote from: Pricecheck;43928

I was thinking the cylinder wall could use just a hone until I saw this!

Yep, thats what happened to mine. The skirt got wedged in. When you take it apart it comes apart in pieces

Hawaiiysr · « **Reply #21 on:** October 05, 2014, 06:00:45 PM »

Ya that's done. New cylinder time

Pricecheck · « **Reply #22 on:** October 05, 2014, 06:22:38 PM »

So that piece can't come out and a new sleeve put in? That broken piece is a catastrophic failure?

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Hawaiiysr · « **Reply #23 on:** October 05, 2014, 06:53:20 PM »

That piece that broke off is part of the sleeve. Is this a stock cylinder? Is there port work done to the cylinder? Most times a resleeve is a costly repair. New cylinders are not much more then the cost to resleeve. I only ask about the porting because unless you spent good money on porting and are in love with the work its almost not worth saving. Let's say you love the port work. You resleeve the cylinder. Now you still have to get someone to match the sleeve to your porting. So more $$$ your spending.

I know of a guy that does sleeves cheaper then anyone else. Still, the end result may be near the cost of a new cylinder.

C-Leigh Racing · « **Reply #24 on:** October 05, 2014, 07:28:13 PM »

After seeing these pics, in my mind I can only guess what those cases look like & I dont have a good feeling. If they are not trashed, you B a lucky dude.

To re-sleeve that cylinder, for someone does cylinder sleeving, your looking no less than $450.00 & could go as high as $650.00 by the time its finished & ready to bolt back in place. That would be from a normal sleeving service. Theres a few out there can do them cheaper for sure. You'll just need to check around & find the one can do the job the best.

I did a lot of sleeving in the past, but when Eddie came out with his own cylinder & the price of them, put me right out of the sleeving business. Shucks, I even recommend folks to check out the ESR kits, it just makes good business sense for me to do so, much as Eddie has done for the 250R.

Being a stroker crank, rules out a Wiseco unless it was one from ESR when Eddie used them, so its either a Hot Rods or OEM stroked I would think. The new Hot Rods are a lot better, still though I would have the tins welded.
Looks like Dave gona end up with a new job, tin welder.
Neil

C-Leigh Racing · « **Reply #25 on:** October 05, 2014, 07:52:24 PM »

Something else I noticed, ol PC got some skills boys, look, he pulled that jug off & the pipes still connected.
Neil

Pricecheck · « **Reply #26 on:** October 05, 2014, 08:31:07 PM »

Ha! Just pulled it with the header on. Almost got the whole thing off with the pipe!

I'm confused on it. I'm fairly certain I wasn't leaning it out. Then the fact that I could respectfully ride through a neighborhood with the throttle position and speed in that little bit of riding time. I just can't see it being lean that much. I literally have oil runs on my exhaust from my condition as well.

I did pull a piece of the tins out of the crank/case area and just popped out a chunk of the sleeve from the opposing side.

Looks like it'll be upgrade time when I do the rebuild. ESR and Neil are gonna be making money off of me with all of these builds! (Not smiling too much inside)

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mennis1971 · « **Reply #27 on:** October 05, 2014, 09:08:05 PM »

On the bright side, you'll now end up with a motor with no "mystery" parts in it. I've been lucky to avoid aftermarket cranks so far, but soon will have one. You can bet that the crank will inspected and have the tins welded. No doubt abt it, building a motor isn't cheap(and that's with me doing most of the work-bearing replacement, assembly etc..., but I still know what to leave up to the pros such as machine work, porting etc...), but neither is having to redo it several times because of mistakes/failures. You wanna play, then you gotta pay. Good luck.

Burns363R · « **Reply #28 on:** October 05, 2014, 09:12:48 PM »

What kind of crank was that?

Pricecheck · « **Reply #29 on:** October 05, 2014, 09:18:15 PM »

It was the one that had your name on it Kyle! It was from bdt but I haven't split the cases to confirm. Kind of scared to tackle that. Not much work space here and id rather clean up the mess and ship it off when that time comes.

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