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Offline bkstoffe

ADHD meds for your kids???
« Reply #15 on: December 06, 2014, 02:14:44 PM »
there are some vitamins or natural supplement things that are supposed to help without using prescription drugs. I would definately look into that and avoid prescriptions if possible.

Offline JesseA420

ADHD meds for your kids???
« Reply #16 on: December 06, 2014, 02:25:18 PM »
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The "addiction" part we hear about in the news is flawed. You cant get "addicted" to a med that you NEED.

Not sure where u are getting your information, but the idea that someone NEEDS a chemical is merely an opinion, no matter if it is a professional opinion or not, it is still opinion, and bares no revelance on its addictiveness. If that were the case when a doctor told you NEED an opiate painkiller to relieve severe pain no other painkiller can relieve,  you wouldnt get addicted to it bc u need it. U should do some more research on the pharmaceutical industry.
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Offline Tbone07

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« Reply #17 on: December 06, 2014, 06:07:05 PM »
Absolutely do not do it. Your young son is doing exactly what a young boy is supposed to do. There isn't a young boy on the planet who loves math, english, and social studies at that age.

My pediatrician told this to my mother when she asked about adhd when i was young......."he doesn't have adhd, he just isn't completely interested in the topics being put in front of him"

I could concentrate on quads, dirtbikes, hunting, computers, and other hobbies all day long. You need to find out what your son is interested in and loves to do. Then let him go at it.

Low and behold my pediatrician was right.....I had to find something I loved to do and was 100% interested in, in order to devote full attention to it.
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Offline Tbone07

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« Reply #18 on: December 06, 2014, 06:09:32 PM »
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i was and AM alot like you and your son. Growing up i was the one who talked non-stop through class, never listened, yet still pulled A's and B's all day, with the occasional C. I had teachers tell my mom "he's just a bad kid with no respect!" and others say "he could be the smartest kid in the class, but he is bored and doesnt listen. A "repeat" button would serve him very well!" We battled this until i was half way through sixth grade when a teacher made the recommendation to my Mom. Unlike most parents, she wasn't offended, but thankful. I started taking the meds, trying so many different kinds, some made me not eat all(like literally half a pb&j per day), some made me crap my brains out daily, some gave me headaches, but we eventually found the one that worked great for me, Concerta. I took it then all through high school and did great. By no means was i "perfect" i still acted up and talked alot, but i retained info and was able to sit through class while pulling A's.

Fast forward to college, i tried stopping the meds. I could notice and instant drop in my attention span. I could listen to a teach for maybe 3 minutes before i tuned out. At this point in my life, talking in class wasnt a problem, but focusing was still an issue as it always had been. So i took it for a couple years in college until my pride got the best of me and i decided i didnt want it anymore. now ive been out of school 2 years, and still notice myself not being focused often, i know hands down the meds would help.

So all in all, i'd say this. Dont be afraid of the meds. The side effects are minimal and very short term. Nothing your kid wont realize and tell you instantly. The "addiction" part we hear about in the news is flawed. You cant get "addicted" to a med that you NEED. Do not let pride or rumors get the best of you. For every 1 bad story you hear about these meds, theres 20 good ones you dont know about. There are many professionals in the business world who take these meds. They arent a bad drug, they have the same mental effects of an energy drink on a tired worker, without the sugar and crap for your body. I believe in these drugs and the good they can bring.

I've taken adderall before in college (didn't have a prescription), and I noticed the benefits you are talking about.

But the root of the cause wasn't that I had ADHD, it's that I always had trouble concentrating on things I didn't give a damn about. Like english, humanities classes etc....
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Offline pinned250r

ADHD meds for your kids???
« Reply #19 on: December 06, 2014, 07:26:01 PM »
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Not sure where u are getting your information, but the idea that someone NEEDS a chemical is merely an opinion, no matter if it is a professional opinion or not, it is still opinion, and bares no revelance on its addictiveness.

Jesse, you are right. A doctor recommends chemo to a leukemia patient in hopes it cures them. The patient does not need it, but it is a helpful tool in surviving. Add or adhd meds are not "needed," but rather helpful tools for students to get through the school/work day, and do so with more success. Your argument is invalid. But please, try again to explain to the world how something you've never used or experienced(for the intended reasons, not just to get high or stay up all night for fun), is bad for them. Ill be over here with the experience and knowledge.

To everyone elses comments. These meds are for exactly what you're saying. To help you focus on the things you need to, but dont really care too. I hated science and SS, but they're needed for a diploma. I hate having to do continued ed classes for my insurance licenses, and if i cared to hear them and pay attention, id probably need something to help me pay attention. Unfortunately in the real world, you cant just "find out what your son is interested in and loves to do. Then let him go do it." At somepoint in life from now until college, he will need to to focus on something other than that. If i could get away with doing what i love all day everyday, i'd be in bed with my wife 16hrs, riding 8 hrs, sleeping zero, because i hate sleeping.

I agree with seeing multiple doctors, getting multiple opinions absolutely, but dont be so closed off to the idea, and definitely dont get a divorce over it. It doesnt make you "a tough guy" by being anti adhd meds.
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Offline JesseA420

ADHD meds for your kids???
« Reply #20 on: December 06, 2014, 08:29:24 PM »
exactly, that is what they are, helpful tools. necessary tools? once again completely opinion, and in this culture a valid one due to the throw a pill at it to fix it mindstate that the pharmaceutical industries advertising has created. they made 11 Billion dollars last year and for every dollar they made, they spent 13 on advertising. this creates this mentality. if u think they have ur best interests in mind think again.
I have no idea what relevance the chemo comment has as a reply to my comment. @.@ I was comparing the addictiveness, of which they are similar. first u say amphetamines arent addictive then ur next post u explain ur yearning for them bc u dont want to pay attention to ur insurance lecture. if that works for u great, but dont fool yourself thinking highly addictive lab chemicals arent addictive just bc a dr said u need these to pay attention.
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Offline The_Steve_Man

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« Reply #21 on: December 06, 2014, 08:58:37 PM »
I understand the thought of meds to fix kids that are just "busy" are unnecessary. I do also agree that many kids are put on this stuff that don't need to be. BUT,  there are legitimate problems with children that do need this to have a good quality of life. My mom and sister believe that the school made us put my son on medication,  which is completely untrue. I have lived with him his entire life and legitimately tried everything. He did not have a good quality of life. He was in trouble more than not.

I invite anybody to come stay with us for a week and see first hand what it is like and prove to me he does not need it. Then I will show you what Mcdonald's chicken nuggets and red food coloring will do to him.

My son has on medication for four years and he is not addicted. He did have some withdrawls likes headaches for a few days when we take him off of it for the summer. We finally found a patch (Daytrana)  that helps him and doesn't have any the side effects (that we know of) of the meds he has taken in the past.

Those of you that have a closed mind and have not had to deal with dont understand.

Offline The Phantom

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« Reply #22 on: December 07, 2014, 11:28:43 AM »
The Dr.'s need to do better health checks before prescribing these drugs to kids and using them as lab rats to "see if this one works"  Research some of the bad side effects that could be possible because the dr.'s do not know for sure what will work and will not.  For example I took my son to the dr. to ask him why they havent done blood tests and ask about family history when they prescibed him Ritalin. It was just given (at the time) a Black Box warning label because the side effects could be fatal.  He told me "well hes been on it for a couple years now so if there were going to be any problems you would have had them by now."  "Its stood the test of time" he told me since its been in use since the mid 70's. (My son was given Adderall at 8 years old, then Concerta at 9 , and then  at 9 given Ritalin) I then took my son (at 11 years old) off of Ritalin because I read other horror stories of kids having siezures with irr-reversable damage and I was not willing to take that chance.  Took the sugar away in the morning.. Put him on a Whey protien shake for breakfast, no sugar lunch, and the change was incredible. Teachers litteraly called me asking me what I did because he had been off the meds for about 6 months before I discovered this Un-medicated way of taking care of the issue.  Needless to say it wasnt easy keeping him off the meds for that 6 months but I was stubborn and determined to beat it another way.  Diet has so much to do with how our body and mind act.  Just like the air/fuel/oil mixture in our 2 strokes.  If you feed it the right combination it will run right.... same as our body.
My suggestion is to give some diet changes a try before running out and quickly medicating.  There is something in the diet that causes these kids to be this way I am completely convinced of this due to my own experience with my son.  He is now 23, married with a son of his own and is working in the medical field and I couldnt be prouder of him.  Im not against the drugs as a last resort but as parents we need exert the energy to find better solutions than just handing pills down to them.  So rarely were these drugs prescribed when I was a kid and now it seems 1 in 8 are on drugs..Its a shame.
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Offline PORTED R

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« Reply #23 on: December 07, 2014, 04:00:51 PM »
Don't do it !!!!
I took those drugs aswill as a kid
I had ADD and the "doctors" thought if I took some meds to help me focus I would be ok
Nope I ended up zoning out harder and loosing time
I was basically stoned all the time
Luckily my mom and dad pulled me off it
I eventually grew out of my ADD
But I still catch myself zoning out a little lol
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Offline MANIAK

ADHD meds for your kids???
« Reply #24 on: December 09, 2014, 09:11:27 PM »
Wow, it is interesting to me how many have chimed in on this subject. My son just turned 8 and is repeating second grade. We made the choice to hold him back due to sub-par reading skills. Last year we discovered that my son was near sighted and couldn't see what was going on in front of the class. We got him glasses but it was too late for him to catch up. We had started him in school early so he is actually with kids his age now. This year he has become disruptive in class. Several people have suggested ADHD and that we need to get him tested. My theory is that A. He's bored because he learned most of this last year. and B. He isn't interested in learning normal stuff. This is a kid that has a vocabulary of a high school kid and understands how to use large complex words in the correct context but refuses to read. He is addicted to MineCraft and has constructed complete cities. He can skin the hair off a gnat's a$$ with a twenty two even after I intentionally F'd up the scope settings. I see a lot of myself in him. I grew up as the smart kid "nerd". I was such a nerd that I scored perfect scores on the State tests and had to retake them because they thought I cheated. My wife is on the ADHD bandwagon but I see him doing the exact same things as I did. I'm against chemical education but the school has a very very low tolerance for misbehavior. His teacher has been teaching since Abraham Lincoln was president and after meeting her at back to school night I was thoroughly surprised at her lack of preparedness. But let's blame it on the kids and say they have ADHD.

Great topic. At least I don't feel like I'm the only one with modern child development questions.

Offline aberegg05

ADHD meds for your kids???
« Reply #25 on: December 09, 2014, 09:25:34 PM »
I have hesitated to comment on this thread but decided to do so. My opinion on any kind of mind alternating drug is not a very good idea. I am very against alot of Rx medicines unless absolutely necessary. Rx medications for ADHD or ADD have been abused and caused issues with students before. I know this because I was a opioid addict for 7 years and the addiction started with drugs such as these. I am now thankfully clean since December 11 2012. This is just a caution to warn you of the problems that can come from Rx medicines. Be very careful and please make wise decisions on this matter.

Offline StrokedAZ

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« Reply #26 on: December 10, 2014, 12:52:42 AM »
That's some tough stuff man.  Gotta keep the family together, that's probably the best medicine for the child.  What sucks is that the school pushes that chit because it is the easy route.  It is easier to have a docile child in their class than actually address what is wrong in the situation.  I'm not hating on teachers necessarily, it is just a fact that they are BUSY and sometimes they view some children and problems instead of working with the child.  I had the same problem when I was a kid and my mom refused.  They ended up putting me in advanced classes with alot of homework.  It turned out that I didn't have a problem, I was just bored.  You don't know me from a oil stain on the ground and I don't know you or your situation but i would look at all your options before you do the meds.  I had to take Kepra( an anti-convulsant) for a little while and I was a moody little b**ch until I was off of that.  I am still on a anti-convulsant (good ol' concussions) but we had to try a few till we got one that didn't turn me into Joe Pesci in that Snickers commercial lol.  Make sure you trust your doctor because that will dictate whether he will be your advocate by looking for the best outcome for you and your family or will simply try to perscribe you something because he has a tee time to keep.  Just my opinion.  Best of luck to you and your family.
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Offline Jerry Hall

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« Reply #27 on: December 10, 2014, 01:49:27 AM »
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That's a tough decision. I have a friend that says the meds helped him. I also have a nephew who was hyper-active. His parents worked the shit out of him and he has grown up to be very successful. I believe that many successful people were hyper kids.

The majority of the exceptional leaders our country and businesses have had would have been diagnoses as having ADD if the pharmaceuticals had a drug to sell back then.  I had the problem when I was young but my parents, and teachers gave me the necessary attention and A LOT OF EXTRA DISCIPLINE that it took to corral my extra energy and showed me how to focus this energy on something constructive. They put in a lot more time than they signed up for when they became parents and teachers.

I had a few friends that had the same problem but not as bad as mine.  Their parents were apparently to busy to be parents and did not discipline them as heavily as my parents did me.  Most of these friends are dead, alcoholics or have spent the majority of their lives in and out our prison.

God designed your child and chose you to raise him.  God did not design him to have his personality changed by drugs.  You were chosen to be his parent so that he  be moulded by you for his intended purpose.  Please do not become another parent to give your child the drugs to make parenting easier.  Take the extra time now and do whatever it takes like my parents did for me, even it requires you to give up your toys.  I hope that many years from now you will have the joy of being the proud parents of a child that has become a parent that is as good as his parents.

Offline The_Steve_Man

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« Reply #28 on: December 10, 2014, 08:14:41 AM »
Here is an excellent explanation of what it is like to truly have ADHD
http://m.tickld.com/x/if-your-friends-ever-say-they-have-adhd-just-show-them-this

Offline Pumashine

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« Reply #29 on: December 10, 2014, 09:34:59 AM »
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Wow, it is interesting to me how many have chimed in on this subject....  But let's blame it on the kids and say they have ADHD.

Great topic. At least I don't feel like I'm the only one with modern child development questions.

In second grade my sons teacher asked me to come in for a parent teacher meeting (single dad).  She suggested Anthony had ADHD. She was saying he's just not normal. When asked what the 4 seasons were his response was soccer, football, hunting and fishing seasons. I guess all the other kids said spring, summer, winter and fall.
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