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Offline countryboy9799

Clutch was real grabby!
« Reply #30 on: February 07, 2015, 12:52:09 PM »
Well I have 1 problem. I cannot find the washer for the pressure plate. Could I get a machine washer at an auto parts store or am I going to have to order the right one? Really wanted to get this running today and I am so close.


Offline countryboy9799

Clutch was real grabby!
« Reply #31 on: February 07, 2015, 12:52:53 PM »
I have this style and the R is an 87 or at least I was told. It looks like I have the upgraded 89 clutch?

Offline Pumashine

Clutch was real grabby!
« Reply #32 on: February 07, 2015, 01:36:48 PM »
Double check to see if its still the the pressure plate. Thats where mine always seem to end up.
Puma 408, Puma 431,  Pilot 412, Puma 431, Mini-tooth 486 Trx450r
89mm  Mini tooth Shearer in frame pipe chromed! With Cascade  Q

Offline countryboy9799

Clutch was real grabby!
« Reply #33 on: February 07, 2015, 01:41:53 PM »
It isnt on the pressure plate, I bet it fell off when I had to move it. We have used a magnet all over the gravel floor and cannot find it. Found one washer and I thought I hit the jackpot but it was to small. Do you know about how thick it is?

Offline countryboy9799

Clutch was real grabby!
« Reply #34 on: February 07, 2015, 01:59:25 PM »
Well after further investigation I dont think the 87 used a washer, it was 88 and later so what do you guys think? Just put it together without a washer?

Offline Pumashine

Clutch was real grabby!
« Reply #35 on: February 07, 2015, 02:50:52 PM »
The 87 does not have the needle bearing. The lifter is completely different. If you can take a pic of what you are working with it is easier to tell if it will work or not.
Puma 408, Puma 431,  Pilot 412, Puma 431, Mini-tooth 486 Trx450r
89mm  Mini tooth Shearer in frame pipe chromed! With Cascade  Q

Offline countryboy9799

Clutch was real grabby!
« Reply #36 on: February 07, 2015, 06:43:20 PM »
Just got home and took some pics.

Offline 4WHLr

Clutch was real grabby!
« Reply #37 on: February 07, 2015, 07:48:08 PM »
Yea, you do need the thin steel washer to go between the roller and the pressure plate. That is the '89 style, or update that you have there.
Did your slide make it to you ok?
1986 TRX275R PC2000

Offline Pumashine

Clutch was real grabby!
« Reply #38 on: February 07, 2015, 08:27:38 PM »
Quote from: countryboy9799;49907
Do you know about how thick it is?
It is .030" thick which is super thin. And it looks like its still there in the pic.
Puma 408, Puma 431,  Pilot 412, Puma 431, Mini-tooth 486 Trx450r
89mm  Mini tooth Shearer in frame pipe chromed! With Cascade  Q

Offline countryboy9799

Clutch was real grabby!
« Reply #39 on: February 07, 2015, 08:42:30 PM »
Quote from: 4WHLr;49928
Yea, you do need the thin steel washer to go between the roller and the pressure plate. That is the '89 style, or update that you have there.
Did your slide make it to you ok?


The slide made it here on Friday, thanks a bunch. Man that washer blends in and sticks in there really good, it was still in there. We used a magnet on the floor for 20 minutes today. Oh well we found some nails that wont find there way into tires LOL. Well hopefully another hours work tomorrow and we should have it running, maybe a little longer. I still have to put the gas tank back on, put the carb back together and put the pressure plate back on and I should be set.

Thanks a lot guys, this is a great forum!

Offline Pumashine

Clutch was real grabby!
« Reply #40 on: February 07, 2015, 08:56:57 PM »
Quote from: countryboy9799;49932
Thanks a lot guys, this is a great forum!
  Thats what were here for. I can't tell you how many times I looked for that washer and its just stuck in there by the oil. I make sets of these washers in different thicknesses in case your cable is out of adjustment. All you have to do is add another .030" washer and you will get all the play back in your clutch cable. Nothing to worry about unless your bike wants to take off with the clutch pulled in.
Puma 408, Puma 431,  Pilot 412, Puma 431, Mini-tooth 486 Trx450r
89mm  Mini tooth Shearer in frame pipe chromed! With Cascade  Q

Offline 4WHLr

Clutch was real grabby!
« Reply #41 on: February 07, 2015, 10:05:21 PM »
Well thats cool, it was hiding in plain sight :excitement:
Tony had a good call on double checking in the pressure plate, it was kinda hard to tell in the pics.
 Pull it though the gears a few times for me :quad:
1986 TRX275R PC2000

Offline countryboy9799

Clutch was real grabby!
« Reply #42 on: February 07, 2015, 11:23:41 PM »
I see the service limits for the clutch springs are 1.77 inches for the 86 and 87 and 1.81 for the 88 and 89. I must have the 89 upgrade so I would use the 1.81 service limit? My checked out at 1.70 so I am going to be short on that. I think I am still going to put it together and try it out, if it slips I can fix that pretty easily. Would another one of those washers help since my springs are short?

Offline Pumashine

Clutch was real grabby!
« Reply #43 on: February 07, 2015, 11:52:37 PM »
Quote from: countryboy9799;49939
Would another one of those washers help since my springs are short?
The length of the spring is not real important. The way to stiffen them up is to put washers behind them. There is a thread on the clutch spring upgrade. The washers on the lifter is to compensate for worn push rods or the actuator arm.
Puma 408, Puma 431,  Pilot 412, Puma 431, Mini-tooth 486 Trx450r
89mm  Mini tooth Shearer in frame pipe chromed! With Cascade  Q

 

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