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Offline rough250r

crank condition opinion
« on: July 19, 2013, 06:52:07 PM »
So I sent my crank to a local shop that's a good size and has a pretty good reputation around the state for motor cycles to have my crank re built with a new pro x rod. Pretty simple as far as I'm concerned I suppose. So I get the call saying hey we can't get the crank apart, sorry can't replace that rod for you. But what we did was stop before we wrecked your crank... OK great I say to my self .. so I pick the thing up today and look at it and all the tinning is bent up with flat spots on the tin.  When you look at it from the side you can see gaps where the tin is seperating away from the crank due to what ever process they used to attempt to repair my crank. So my question gents is........ is this thing now a paper weight? Or do I have to pay some one to straighten this thing out? Is it even possible?  Its kinda hard to tell in the pictures how beat up it is. But it may be enough for you guys to give an opinion...hope the pics work. If not I'll try and up load from my computer ..

edit : a couple more pics are up... but the verdict seems to be junk it eh...

Thanks!



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Offline rough250r

crank condition opinion
« Reply #1 on: July 19, 2013, 06:59:23 PM »
Looks like I'll have to upload the rest from the computer.. stay tuned

Offline rsss396

crank condition opinion
« Reply #2 on: July 19, 2013, 08:13:30 PM »
The two crank halves do not look parallel any more or is it just the picture?

imo its junk unless you have the tins tig welded all the way around or remove the tins all together crankworks can probably weld it up  but a hot rod crank would just be cheaper
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Other great builders I also would recommend: Neil Prichard, Jerry Hall, Bubba Ramsey and James Dodge.

Offline Aceman

crank condition opinion
« Reply #3 on: July 19, 2013, 08:39:48 PM »
Junk it.

When I had my crank rebuilt, I sent it to Crank Works in AZ and had them rebuild it with a Pro-X rod.  Been a few years now with no problems.
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Offline rough250r

crank condition opinion
« Reply #4 on: July 19, 2013, 08:55:36 PM »
negative rss, those are def not parallel ... looks like im spending more money!  seems as though its going to be years before this motor gets running again! its been on my work bench for so long its starting to get a thin layer of dust, but lesson learned dont trust my shop and send it out to a known proffesional

Offline rsss396

crank condition opinion
« Reply #5 on: July 19, 2013, 10:09:56 PM »
honestly a hotrod crank is about what it would have cost to rebuild that crank, unfortunately now you probably have a new rod that needs a home
Anyone looking for a great builder I highly recommend the following.
For CP products dealers I would recommend:
Arlan at LED(site sponsor), Pete Schemberger at Hybrid Engineering, Mat Shearer at Shearer Custom Pipes, Dennis Packard at Packard Racing, and Nate McCoy of McCoys Peformance.

Other great builders I also would recommend: Neil Prichard, Jerry Hall, Bubba Ramsey and James Dodge.

Offline 05450r

crank condition opinion
« Reply #6 on: July 19, 2013, 10:28:11 PM »
Shop around,I got my Hot Rod crank for $172 shipped. Well worth the investment,thats a shame they messed up an oem crank. Did the reinburse you in any way?
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Offline Tyler 54

crank condition opinion
« Reply #7 on: July 19, 2013, 10:44:19 PM »
My local shop wont mess with cranks that have that thin layer of tin on them specifically because of this reason.

What year crank is it? I've got a ton of extras, some probably useable as is, I know I have an 86 Crank I removed last week with rust on the little end of the rod. If it helps pay shipping you can have it.

Offline Polonda

crank condition opinion
« Reply #8 on: July 19, 2013, 10:46:29 PM »
Looks like the stator side journal is spun also.  Was the bearing loose on it?  

Agree with the rest.....junk it.  Or send it to me.  :playful:  I've been looking for a couple cranks to experiment with in my mill.  (Attempt stroking myself)

Offline Pumashine

crank condition opinion
« Reply #9 on: July 20, 2013, 12:07:18 AM »
I know plenty of shops that do not have a problem pulling the OEM crank apart and put in a new rod that lasts as long as expected. Sorry you got screwed over. Take a member up on his offer and pay shipping.
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Offline Fear250r

crank condition opinion
« Reply #10 on: July 20, 2013, 01:23:45 AM »
Everybody, meet my cousin Jon.

Did I tell him where to take it?  Yes

Did he listen?  No

;-)
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Offline udontknowme

crank condition opinion
« Reply #11 on: July 20, 2013, 03:37:07 AM »
that shop sounds like a bunch of jokers. should of told you they couldnt do it before they attempted it. really they should pay for a new crank. they knew they couldnt do it but tried any way. epic fail
to much power is almost enough

Offline rough250r

crank condition opinion
« Reply #12 on: July 20, 2013, 06:54:10 AM »
Thank you Jesse for the intro!  Polonda the stator side bearing was on its way out as far as play within the bearing its self.
But it sat tightly in the cases and on the crank as well so I'm not sure if that was damage from a rebuild before I got my grubby hands on the machine. Tyler... that was a 88 crank. Ill pm you and we can work some thing out.  Thanks for the help guys this forum is full of great people!

Offline F-Red

crank condition opinion
« Reply #13 on: July 20, 2013, 08:49:38 AM »
In the future, try http://www.mrcrankshaft.com/index.html Vince is a great guy and does superb work.
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Offline Tyler 54

crank condition opinion
« Reply #14 on: July 20, 2013, 09:07:10 AM »
Quote from: rough250r;4738
Thank you Jesse for the intro!  Polonda the stator side bearing was on its way out as far as play within the bearing its self.
But it sat tightly in the cases and on the crank as well so I'm not sure if that was damage from a rebuild before I got my grubby hands on the machine. Tyler... that was a 88 crank. Ill pm you and we can work some thing out.  Thanks for the help guys this forum is full of great people!

I probably have a few of those too...

 

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