Author Topic: any tips for keeping strangers off your track? (Read 6819 times)

atvmxr · « **Reply #15 on:** July 23, 2013, 12:44:25 PM »

fence, no trespassing signs, get the law enforcement involved, and spend some time out their heavily monitoring the place for a couple weeks and kicking out people not welcome. they should get the message.

JoePA · « **Reply #16 on:** July 23, 2013, 02:02:18 PM »

Trail cameras. this way you can find out where they are getting in and what time they are arriving. Plus when/if you catch them in the act you have proof and call the police.

etccb · « **Reply #17 on:** July 23, 2013, 04:09:03 PM »

This is a big problem everywhere. It makes it to where you cant have your own trails and do what you want on your own land for fear of being sued by someone that was never invited. Fencing off your property can be a huge cost. Stinks for sure.

363 stroker · « **Reply #18 on:** July 23, 2013, 05:06:43 PM »

How about some of those cheap fake cameras with signs that say property under video surveillance.

GO OVRIT · « **Reply #19 on:** July 23, 2013, 07:03:48 PM »

I gave my buddy a nice game cam for Christmas, but he's a little leary of leaving it out there for fear of it getting stolen. They're easy to hide from deer, but not as easy to hide from people. We're both also leary of general calls to the sheriffs office not because we're doing anything illegal, but because its hard to convince some of our county officials that it's strictly personal use. They have shut down enough similar situations for lack of permits. We're fine as far as zoning, but they could make us go through all the red tape of land disturbance permits made more complicated by the fact that there are running streams on the property that miles downstream feed into the Chesapeak Bay's tributaries. I guess like some of you have said, patroling it more is about it.

broken1 · « **Reply #20 on:** July 23, 2013, 08:48:35 PM »

Put up a sign that says "You must pay to use the track" than if anybody call's you'll know if someone is there & you can go kick them off the property. It's unlikely though that people would call especially if the bone head's are thieves & already stealing from you anyway.

DOUGLAS · « **Reply #21 on:** July 23, 2013, 09:58:15 PM »

just approach these folks and say whats up. the bottom line is people know its there and there will always be intruders. here in mass we ride on private land and trails that are owned by snowmoblie clubs the tracks by the railroad and state forests. if someone shows up its every man for them selfs. its just the way it is. it sucks but these are our only options to ride.
the word is out about your riding area and it will always be. good luck on keeping out the unwanted. they probably don't have any other place to ride and they will keep passing the word on to others. they don't see it like you do it may not be there land but they still want to ride so they take the chance if they don't they can't ride. if it were you what would you do. not opposing you at all. just saying
thank you
Douglas

DOUGLAS · « **Reply #22 on:** July 23, 2013, 09:59:28 PM »

The stealing of the metal is probably from scrapers

Drewski · « **Reply #23 on:** July 30, 2013, 11:15:25 PM »

Get rid of the "ride at your own risk" signs as stated above. Find out where they are gaining access and put down some simplex nails. If there are multiple entry trails then, If you have to, put up a barrier of some sort that will funnel the illegal traffic into one spot. Then focus on that area in particular. Four tires full of nails is the best way to convey to someone that "you're not welcome here". It worked for me. Getting bureaucrats/ police involved will only lead to a bunch of red tape and you may end up being the one who has to sneak into your own track to ride it. Goodluck!

okbeast · « **Reply #24 on:** July 31, 2013, 12:20:08 PM »

Land mines

Mosh22 · « **Reply #25 on:** August 06, 2013, 11:25:51 AM »

You and your friends that legally own the land, have rights, whatever, should just take some random nice days off work, or the weekends you go to ride, call the local authorities and advise them to be in the area for arresting trespassers and impounding bikes..It sucks having to miss work, and be that way with people, but once you bust a few and machines get impounded, word will get out REAL fast and they will stay away.

And cops love revenue, and impounding equals money to them.
Personally, I would stay away from doing anything to damage others equipment or cause injuries.

pinned250r · « **Reply #26 on:** December 23, 2013, 09:24:10 AM »

Being an insurance man myself, my first thought is the property owner needs to get the biggest umbrella policy he can get. Although i'd say 2 million should be enough, you never know. But huge risks here.

I have many ideas here, some a great, some are just kind of funny.
My initial response was, if people are coming mainly to ride on the "track" part if with the jumps, is it possible to somehow fence it off(even with cheap stakes and chicken wire, and put arrows to 1 main entrance where you charge for entry and have them sign a liability waiver, i understand you dont have the time to sit there and monitor, but an idea none the less.

I like the idea of fencing off the entrances or gating them(rather than cabling).

As much as i like the idea of nails, or spikes to pop tires, its not logical. People can sue for anything these days

I like Mosh22's idea, alot. although i hear what you are saying about the red tape and the local pd requiring a ton of paperwork, but it may be worth it.

Just sounds like a tough situation. Has there been any advancement in this?

Colin