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Offline 2ndmoto

Ignition Problem - Opinions on CDI boxes
« Reply #15 on: October 06, 2015, 07:24:14 PM »
I have ran Rickys in other bikes without issue. I have heard mixed results about Rick though. Similar in name but they are different companies

Offline 86Rrider

Ignition Problem - Opinions on CDI boxes
« Reply #16 on: October 08, 2015, 12:31:07 PM »
Thanks for the replies guys! Yes, there is a Ricky Stator that has been around for a lot of years as well as there is a Rick's Electronics. The Rick's I have only seen popping-up on searches for about 4 - 5 years now. One of those not sure what to do, for I called Ricky Stator's shop number about 2 weeks ago, no one answered, left 2 voice messages and have yet to get a return call. Out-going message says to order parts, use the website. If they cannot return a call, not sure if I want to try the website? How about anyone else? Who else out there makes a stator / igniter worth spending money on?

Offline JesseA420

Ignition Problem - Opinions on CDI boxes
« Reply #17 on: October 08, 2015, 01:00:50 PM »
Quote from: 86Rrider;55475
I have been considering the CR ignition route, but the cost vs. the actual gain for me has been the stopping point.

^personally i feel this is the best upgrade an R can have. worth every penny.
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Offline 86Rrider

Ignition Problem - Opinions on CDI boxes
« Reply #18 on: October 09, 2015, 12:29:23 PM »
My one worry about going with the CR ignition is I've read and been told that with the smaller flywheel, my engine will struggle some on the bottom end? I say this for I do a lot of slow-speed technical riding, so if the smaller flywheel is going to cause more stalling on me, I'd rather stick with stock. Tell me if I'm wrong on that or not. I like the idea of everything else that the CR ignition offers though. What is the best way to do this conversion? Order all OEM Honda parts then the adaptor plate from ESR? What is the true difference with the CR set-up? Is it just the digital CDI? Or are other parts way different/better than stock TRX?

Offline hickwheeler

Ignition Problem - Opinions on CDI boxes
« Reply #19 on: October 09, 2015, 06:12:51 PM »
If you decide to go with the car ignition. I have a complete 01 cr setup with ESR adapter plate.
88 hybrid 431 puma
88 (BOF Build) stock motor and oem 89 plastics
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Offline jcs003

Ignition Problem - Opinions on CDI boxes
« Reply #20 on: October 09, 2015, 06:36:36 PM »
Quote from: 86Rrider;59645
My one worry about going with the CR ignition is I've read and been told that with the smaller flywheel, my engine will struggle some on the bottom end? I say this for I do a lot of slow-speed technical riding, so if the smaller flywheel is going to cause more stalling on me, I'd rather stick with stock. Tell me if I'm wrong on that or not. I like the idea of everything else that the CR ignition offers though. What is the best way to do this conversion? Order all OEM Honda parts then the adaptor plate from ESR? What is the true difference with the CR set-up? Is it just the digital CDI? Or are other parts way different/better than stock TRX?

i believe the smaller flywheel is a misconception.  i had a number of expensive issues with OEM trx250r ignition and switched to the cr and wish it would of been my first move.  The reliability of the cr ignition alone is worth the cost.

also, the is an obvious boost in throttle response.  the only issue i see might be some feel the need for more clutch work.  this is irrelevant because a two stroke requires clutch to get the best performance.

john

Offline JesseA420

Ignition Problem - Opinions on CDI boxes
« Reply #21 on: October 09, 2015, 08:31:35 PM »
if u stall it with the cr flywheel you would have stalled it with the stock flywheel anyway. the throttle response is noticeable and the reliability of modern electronics is just a given.
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Offline 86Rrider

Ignition Problem - Opinions on CDI boxes
« Reply #22 on: October 12, 2015, 12:18:42 PM »
Thanks for the input guys! You really have me leaning to the CR set-up now. hickwheeler - PM coming at ya! So, can you tell me now, what is the common way to get a CR set-up? Is it to buy all the OEM Honda parts from a dealer, then just the adaptor plate from ESR? Or does someone out there offer up a "kit" of some form?

Offline 86Rrider

Ignition Problem - Opinions on CDI boxes
« Reply #23 on: October 19, 2015, 12:19:30 PM »
OK, I did a bunch of research over the week-end and I think I am just going to buy a new igniter coil. The CR ignition sounds great for performance and reliability, but no lighting coil. Now I read a few posts by folks on this side at other sites from over the years and seen the ideas for small battery packs/batteries, rectifiers and other wiring gizmos to get lights, but I like the simplistic system that my machine came with. So the $300 ~ $600 price tag to switch to a CR ignition, then another $100 or less to get lights again, I'm just going to fix what I currently have. Thanks for all the input guys! You helped me make a decision on this.

Offline 2ndmoto

Ignition Problem - Opinions on CDI boxes
« Reply #24 on: October 19, 2015, 10:35:01 PM »
I want to see some dyno numbers of a cr ignition. I am not sold on them, so I am with you. Run the OE.

Offline Skeans1

Ignition Problem - Opinions on CDI boxes
« Reply #25 on: October 19, 2015, 10:59:59 PM »
2nd moto Jason has seen me start my sphinx 363 on a stock ignition and I'm not a big guy, if you can' start these big bore 363> on a stock ignition go to the gym.

Offline JesseA420

Ignition Problem - Opinions on CDI boxes
« Reply #26 on: October 20, 2015, 09:27:49 AM »
Quote from: 86Rrider;60129
OK, I did a bunch of research over the week-end and I think I am just going to buy a new igniter coil. The CR ignition sounds great for performance and reliability, but no lighting coil. Now I read a few posts by folks on this side at other sites from over the years and seen the ideas for small battery packs/batteries, rectifiers and other wiring gizmos to get lights, but I like the simplistic system that my machine came with. So the $300 ~ $600 price tag to switch to a CR ignition, then another $100 or less to get lights again, I'm just going to fix what I currently have. Thanks for all the input guys! You helped me make a decision on this.

thanks for not picking up the cr ign hickwheeler offered u, i picked it up from him last week ;)
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Offline 2ndmoto

Ignition Problem - Opinions on CDI boxes
« Reply #27 on: October 20, 2015, 05:28:49 PM »
Quote from: Skeans1;60147
2nd moto Jason has seen me start my sphinx 363 on a stock ignition and I'm not a big guy, if you can' start these big bore 363> on a stock ignition go to the gym.

Coming from a guy that hucks logs for a living. I need to go to the gym to keep up with you!

Offline hickwheeler

Ignition Problem - Opinions on CDI boxes
« Reply #28 on: October 20, 2015, 06:21:59 PM »
It would take more than going to the gym for me to keep up with a guy like skeans
88 hybrid 431 puma
88 (BOF Build) stock motor and oem 89 plastics
More in the works

Offline 86Rrider

Ignition Problem - Opinions on CDI boxes
« Reply #29 on: September 26, 2016, 01:02:36 PM »
I did not get around to following up with this post as to how I fixed my ignition issue: I finally got it diagnosed down to the igniter coil is what went "bad" on me. I swapped out my stator/igniter from my nephew's '87 and my machine would fire on the first kick. So I ended up buying a used stock stator/igniter off e-bay and it has performed flawlessly since. I'm planning on buying one of the re-pop igniter coils and attaching it to my original coil assembly as a back-up in the future. Again, thank you guys for all your replies and insight!

 

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