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Offline Jar350r

How much power will a stock tranny stand
« on: July 04, 2013, 11:52:03 AM »
Just wondering how much power a stock tranny can handle

Offline Polonda

How much power will a stock tranny stand
« Reply #1 on: July 04, 2013, 12:02:46 PM »
That depends on how the tranny is treated while riding and it's condition. They're pretty bulletproof until you get to the 60-70hp mark if you ask me. Many even run very good conditioned ones in 90-100hp big bores, but at any moment they will throw gears through the cases.

High horse drag motors should definitely go billet 1-5 from Nate McCoy.

Offline Piediddy

How much power will a stock tranny stand
« Reply #2 on: July 04, 2013, 12:04:03 PM »
This is just my opinion from my experience. Anything over a 330cc I wouldn't run stock tranny gears. I had a puma and prox370 on gas break 2nd gear and sling it through the left case. Had about $7k into a build, drove for 4 hours and within an hour of riding had 2nd gear laying in the sand.

Offline Jar350r

How much power will a stock tranny stand
« Reply #3 on: July 04, 2013, 12:06:27 PM »
Well got about 60 to 65 but never put it in the sand just track . I bet the sand a paddles will be hard on it

Offline derby

How much power will a stock tranny stand
« Reply #4 on: July 04, 2013, 02:25:10 PM »
It can also be the condition of the tranny you start with.  I have found that of the trannies I have broken it is always second gear.  You can back cut the dogs and treat the tranny and it will help it live.  I have seen oem overrides do fine in high hp bikes but when you start shifting the tranny at wot on a non-overide that is when they break.  I think the puma motors were the first setup to really be plagued with tranny issues.  It was enough hp to break it.  The saber will do the same but most of those built have overrides.
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Offline Rupp250

How much power will a stock tranny stand
« Reply #5 on: July 04, 2013, 02:46:27 PM »
I have been talking to Nate about this lately. I think he only has 1 maybe 2 sets of gears left.

With the dwindling supply of good used gears, is there a need for a set of replacement billet gears. Something that will be a drop in for a stock set-up.

I use my current bike for everything, dune riding, dirt trails, and 300ft. Although I would like a over ride for drag racing, I don't think I would like it for dune riding.  

So, is there enough of a need for them to get them made?
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Offline seanoktm

How much power will a stock tranny stand
« Reply #6 on: July 04, 2013, 03:02:33 PM »
I thought Nate was having more billet tranys made? With a thinner 4th counter shaft gear so do have to mod the gear or fork to prevent them rubbing. At least that's what he told me last October when I bought my billet trans I think he had 4 left at that point.
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Offline 363 stroker

How much power will a stock tranny stand
« Reply #7 on: July 04, 2013, 03:04:24 PM »
Quote from: Piediddy;332
This is just my opinion from my experience. Anything over a 330cc I wouldn't run stock tranny gears. I had a puma and prox370 on gas break 2nd gear and sling it through the left case. Had about $7k into a build, drove for 4 hours and within an hour of riding had 2nd gear laying in the sand.


I had the same thing happen to me twice.  Prox-370 about 6o hp and it was 2nd gear both times.  I recently got a set of Baldwin gears from Mark himself.  We will see how these do on my new Sphynx.
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Offline seanoktm

How much power will a stock tranny stand
« Reply #8 on: July 04, 2013, 03:05:51 PM »
I thought Nate was having more billet tranys made? With a thinner 4th counter shaft gear so do have to mod the gear or fork to prevent them rubbing. At least that's what he told me last October when I bought my billet trans I think he had 4 left at that point. My stock back cut trans holds up fine in my gas 370 and I ran a stock override that was back cut and cryo'ed in my puma for 2 seasons it held up fine.
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Offline Snowmaker10

How much power will a stock tranny stand
« Reply #9 on: July 04, 2013, 03:12:24 PM »
Don't mean to steal your thread, but since the topic is started, does anyone know of a quality place o get gears polished or cryo'ed?

Offline derby

How much power will a stock tranny stand
« Reply #10 on: July 04, 2013, 04:08:58 PM »
I know hybrid engineering can have them done for you.  Pete was great to work with.  Also I had wcr backcut and cryo one for me.  They usually do banshees but they have done several hondas.

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Offline Pumashine

How much power will a stock tranny stand
« Reply #11 on: July 04, 2013, 04:51:28 PM »
Have blown out 2nd gear on a 350 pro-x and 431 puma. Since then I do not get to excited to race. OEM case half and tranny runs $500. Do have 100 hours on the Puma without any problem.
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Offline Rman

How much power will a stock tranny stand
« Reply #12 on: July 05, 2013, 09:39:28 PM »
Yep, Ive busted 2nd twice, I still cringe sometimes on a second gear start when Im giving it 100%.

Offline motofool250r

How much power will a stock tranny stand
« Reply #13 on: July 06, 2013, 10:31:39 AM »
Quote from: 363 stroker;419
I had the same thing happen to me twice.  Prox-370 about 6o hp and it was 2nd gear both times.  I recently got a set of Baldwin gears from Mark himself.  We will see how these do on my new Sphynx.


you bought them this year? i called about 8months ago tryign to stir up more sets being produced he was not interested but had my name on a list if they were made. care to elaborate?
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Offline Rupp250

How much power will a stock tranny stand
« Reply #14 on: July 06, 2013, 10:42:29 AM »
I just bought a complete motor. I will be taking it completely apart and having these guys cryo it.
http://www.performancecryogenics.com/
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