Notice on how I (mrtwidster1) do business concerning PAYPAL

[dem3500]

any time anyone goes to any store and uses a debit or credit card the store gets charged a percentage for the use of plastic. it is the exact same thing with paypal. how many people pay extra when buying groceries so the store doesnt have to loose a few bucks to the card company? the answer is no one! when i sell things and am paid with paypal i never ask for a gift payment or ask for paypal fees. if i get paid as a gift then cool! if not i dont complain. thats how the world works. in turn i simply do not buy from someone that is asking for a gift payment or for the fees to be paid. twice i have been saved by paying for the fees as a buyer so now i just walk away and dont bother if im asked to pay fees. why should i ask for those fees back then turn right around and buy something online or in a store in person and have them pay for the fees when i use paypal or plastic? if you want to sell something for $20 then list it for $25 to cover your fees. easy as that.

[Tbone07]

I'm the first one to complain about greedy corporations, in this case credit card companies. But the developers of PayPal deserve to get paid for their idea.

However it might not be the best solution for small business owners. I know my dad and I don't deal with any of that crap when we make custom cabinets.

I've had sellers who I've never done business come back and whine after I paid them with the "goods and services" option, when they stated a price as shipped and said nothing about PayPal fees. I don't trust anybody

[Jerry Hall]

..............I've had sellers who I've never done business come back and whine after I paid them with the "goods and services" option, when they stated a price as shipped and said nothing about PayPal fees. I don't trust anybody

Do you know why they whine when you use PayPal to pay your invoices?

[rablack21]

Whether a seller puts a price on a part and asks you to include the paypal fees or he charges more in his upfront price should be irrelevant. You are still paying the fee either way. And he's given you the option whether you want to pay the fee or send as gift. If he includes it in the price upfront, you don't have the option. While I agree that I only gift to people that I know, I have always paid the extra fee upfront if it's someone I don't know and he wants me to gift it. As long as they illustrate to the buyer upfront what they expect, then the buyer has the option to agree to it or not.

[Tbone07]

Do you know why they whine when you use PayPal to pay your invoices?

I agree that there's some grey area as to who should shoulder the extra cost. The buyer uses PayPal for their own security, but somehow the seller has to pay the fees?

What protection can be offered to the buyer if PayPal isn't used? The seller holds the goods and receives the $$ before shipment. There has to be a mechanism in place that protects the buyer, a bad transaction takes place almost every day in this community.

[StrokedAZ]

I don't mind the fee for the most part.  PayPal allows me to feed my instant gratification.  I assume there is always gonna be a fee, it's not amazon prime (which I pay for as well).  It's the safety and convenience of the transaction that allows me to give my debit number to a total stranger.  If I had to mail a check for every purchase I would never buy anything lol.  And I can say from personal exp that Jerry doesn't take a card 😂

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[Jerry Hall]

I don't mind the fee for the most part.  PayPal allows me to feed my instant gratification.  I assume there is always gonna be a fee, it's not amazon prime (which I pay for as well).  It's the safety and convenience of the transaction that allows me to give my debit number to a total stranger.  If I had to mail a check for every purchase I would never buy anything lol.  And I can say from personal exp that Jerry doesn't take a card 

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When a customer writes a check, sends a money order or pays cash, it is a signal that he is not having to borrow money (put it on his charge card) to feed his habit.  If he has to look at his bank account or dig up the can in the back yard to count his mad money, it gives him some time to think about whether he can really afford what he is about to do.  Taking a little time to contemplate a purchase stops most impulsive buying which also eliminates most buyer's remorse and returns.

I have too many customers that do not put their families first so I try to do everything I can to make it difficult for those that do not have the self discipline to do what is righ.  I do not want to be responsible for enabling them to neglect their families.

[hickwheeler]

When a customer writes a check, sends a money order or pays cash, it is a signal that he is not having to borrow money (put it on his charge card) to feed his habit.  If he has to look at his bank account or dig up the can in the back yard to count his mad money, it gives him some time to think about whether he can really afford what he is about to do.  Taking a little time to contemplate a purchase stops most impulsive buying which also eliminates most buyer's remorse and returns.

I have too many customers that do not put their families first so I try to do everything I can to make it difficult for those that do not have the self discipline to do what is righ.  I do not want to be responsible for enabling them to neglect their families.

I can respect this

[StrokedAZ]

When a customer writes a check, sends a money order or pays cash, it is a signal that he is not having to borrow money (put it on his charge card) to feed his habit.  If he has to look at his bank account or dig up the can in the back yard to count his mad money, it gives him some time to think about whether he can really afford what he is about to do.  Taking a little time to contemplate a purchase stops most impulsive buying which also eliminates most buyer's remorse and returns.

I have too many customers that do not put their families first so I try to do everything I can to make it difficult for those that do not have the self discipline to do what is righ.  I do not want to be responsible for enabling them to neglect their families.

My PayPal and my debit card are linked to my bank account that is filled from my hard work 40+ hours a week.  Just because people have direct deposit and like to buy stuff online doesn't mean they don't pay their mortgage or spend money on their kids. I think u paint a broad brush on anyone who chooses plastic as their main source of payment. What's the difference between that and a check or money order.  they both get drawn directly from the same account.  I do get what you are saying about handling your business first.  You don't even want to know what my cheerleeding/swim team/gymnastics bill looks like lol

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[Jerry Hall]

My PayPal and my debit card are linked to my bank account that is filled from my hard work 40+ hours a week.  Just because people have direct deposit and like to buy stuff online doesn't mean they don't pay their mortgage or spend money on their kids. I think u paint a broad brush on anyone who chooses plastic as their main source of payment. What's the difference between that and a check or money order.  they both get drawn directly from the same account.  I do get what you are saying about handling your business first.  You don't even want to know what my cheerleeding/swim team/gymnastics bill looks like lol

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I know that you can afford to play.  I am not insinuating that everyone that uses plastic is borrowing money that is not currently in their account, but applies to some.  Even when someone has cash in their pocket or money in their checking account does not mean they can afford to spend the money with me.

As a customer is picking up his stuff and paying his bill in cash I hear his wife mumbling to him that we needed to have the washing machine repaired or we needed a new refrigerator more than you needed to have the lower end rebuilt and your cylinder ported.  

A customer picks up his stuff and writes a check and leaves.  A few minutes later he comes back into the shop and ask if I have any jumper cables, and can i give him a jump.  I hear one of his kids asking him why he has to keep asking people to help him start our car.  

A customer pay his bill and ask if I can help him load his bike.  We go outside to load his bike and I see his vehicle leaking coolant and I call his attention to the leak.  He says he knows it is leaking and has been leaking for some time but does not want to spend the money on it yet.

I could write a book filled with similar stories.  I have seen the above happen more times than I can count.

[StrokedAZ]

I know that you can afford to play.  I am not insinuating that everyone that uses plastic is borrowing money that is not currently in their account, but applies to some.  Even when someone has cash in their pocket or money in their checking account does not mean they can afford to spend the money with me.
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Ain't that the truth.  A handconed HPR pipe and 310 kit is a want that is in that category.  But I realize quad riding is a want not a need.  I probably go fast enough anyways.  I just thought the comment was aimed at me for some crazy reason.  Since it was not I apologize for getting my panties in a bunch!

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