Author Topic: Best chassis (Read 9123 times)

Isak · « **on:** February 26, 2016, 09:16:55 PM »

So I want to start a new build and was wondering what the best chassis is and why? Why is there such a big price difference from Laeger to Lonestar etc...

2ndmoto · « **Reply #1 on:** February 26, 2016, 10:41:15 PM »

What are you doing with the bike? Many good chassis out there. I have roll design. Finish is good, fit was terrible. Very disappointed in the design. I am referring to the lack of detail.

No standoffs for a rear break line on the swing arm
Very little room to mount an intake
No pipe mounts
Little camber adjustment

It is a custom frame and "customizing" is expected. However these were a lot of money new and it seems that a couple more hours on fab would have really nailed it. Other than these little things, the frame is solid and handles well. I don't think I'll ever break it

I hear Laegers have oem quality fit and finish. Cr link sounds like it works very well. Also Laeger (and Roll) have narrow frame offerings. Allows for better handling and more travel.
Not sure of the new Lonestar, but their older ones had fitment uses (like the roll). Heard a few people stating they broke them.
I hear Arens is about unbreakable. Fit and finish I hear is good.
Walsh, I have only heard good things about them, however I don't know much about their offerings

Best regards
- Jason

Isak · « **Reply #2 on:** February 26, 2016, 11:02:34 PM »

Thanks Jason. I was surprised to hear your input on Roll. I was under the assumption that those frames were the Rolls Royce of R chassis'. I plan on mainly woods/mix riding. I guess another question is which frames are readily available? Is Arens going to start making some again? I thought I heard a rumor they were but I called CT Racing the other day and they told me they didn't know anything about it and they've been out of them for a while.

Skeans1 · « **Reply #3 on:** February 27, 2016, 12:30:11 AM »

Quote from: 2ndmoto;64983

What are you doing with the bike? Many good chassis out there. I have roll design. Finish is good, fit was terrible. Very disappointed in the design. I am referring to the lack of detail.

No standoffs for a rear break line on the swing arm
Very little room to mount an intake
No pipe mounts
Little camber adjustment

It is a custom frame and "customizing" is expected. However these were a lot of money new and it seems that a couple more hours on fab would have really nailed it. Other than these little things, the frame is solid and handles well. I don't think I'll ever break it

I hear Laegers have oem quality fit and finish. Cr link sounds like it works very well. Also Laeger (and Roll) have narrow frame offerings. Allows for better handling and more travel.
Not sure of the new Lonestar, but their older ones had fitment uses (like the roll). Heard a few people stating they broke them.
I hear Arens is about unbreakable. Fit and finish I hear is good.
Walsh, I have only heard good things about them, however I don't know much about their offerings

Best regards
- Jason

Jason can I add in it's heavy as well

Robsessed86 · « **Reply #4 on:** February 27, 2016, 06:09:30 AM »

I have an arens project build I'm working on and fitment and finish is top notch. I heard nothing but good about the durability of arens. My frame is a no link rear and front end geometry is same as stock as is all arens frames. I haven't got it all together to ride yet but Ive always heard nothing but good about handling. Laegers are solid tough frames as well. Not bad in fit and finish Dept but are much much more expensive than arens. As for Roll and Walsh and all others I know what I've heard but never owned or rode them so I can't really comment.

spiritaces · « **Reply #5 on:** February 27, 2016, 08:12:42 AM »

I'll let ya know on the Walsh when it arrives

hontrx265r · « **Reply #6 on:** February 27, 2016, 11:17:34 AM »

The walsh is a nice chassis. The fit was not all that great. I had to do a fair amount if work to get things right. They are slightly heavy but it does not bother me the least. Laeger have great fit, and are well built but not as rock solid as a roll or walsh. Arens is a great stock replacent. Newer lsr stuff is good also, fit is good, they are relatively light, and cheap compared to the rest.

spiritaces · « **Reply #7 on:** February 27, 2016, 11:35:43 AM »

He would know prolly had them all lol

2ndmoto · « **Reply #8 on:** February 27, 2016, 11:58:30 AM »

It just seemed that everything I bolted on to the frame I had to mess with. It was not plug and play. I just purchased the frame a fee years back, so it had been built a few times before. I guess I was under the same impression and it would be at an oem level on fitment. I have been slowly improving the frame and adding these details.

And it is heavy, compared to a stock frame. I did not notice the extra weight when riding.

Skeans1 · « **Reply #9 on:** February 27, 2016, 01:47:33 PM »

Quote from: 2ndmoto;65003

It just seemed that everything I bolted on to the frame I had to mess with. It was not plug and play. I just purchased the frame a fee years back, so it had been built a few times before. I guess I was under the same impression and it would be at an oem level on fitment. I have been slowly improving the frame and adding these details.

And it is heavy, compared to a stock frame. I did not notice the extra weight when riding.

I didn't when I rode it as well but I did when we loaded it up, it was a nice ride and felt stiffer for sure.

hontrx265r · « **Reply #10 on:** February 29, 2016, 09:40:36 AM »

I have not had a lobo John, but I have had a couple of the rest. I rode a couple lobos this year at glamis. My honest opinion is all the chassis are in the same category as far as performance. Its about budget. I think laeger and lsr probably have the best or easiest fit.

Tbone07 · « **Reply #11 on:** February 29, 2016, 11:07:01 AM »

The fit and finish on my Laeger is much better than the Lonestar I had. The LSR felt way too light, almost like they used tubing with a smaller thickness. You could feel the difference when picking up the bare frames. Parts fitment was better on the Laeger as well

norcalduner · « **Reply #12 on:** February 29, 2016, 01:15:31 PM »

I have a Roll, JP (old LSR), and a Walsh. All my friends have mostly Laegers and LSR's that I've rode. Customizing is obviously necessary mostly due to fitment but should not be problem if you know somebody or got some fab skills and can be overcome. But in the end, for me it's about ride quality. Nothing made me happier and suited my style than riding my Lobo. As the saying goes, Buy once cry once.

Robsessed86 · « **Reply #13 on:** February 29, 2016, 03:55:37 PM »

Quote from: norcalduner;65041

I have a Roll, JP (old LSR), and a Walsh. All my friends have mostly Laegers and LSR's that I've rode. Customizing is obviously necessary mostly due to fitment but should not be problem if you know somebody or got some fab skills and can be overcome. But in the end, for me it's about ride quality. Nothing made me happier and suited my style than riding my Lobo. As the saying goes, Buy once cry once.

I'm curious in what ways does the lobo ride different. Is it different handling or center of gravity or what?

norcalduner · « **Reply #14 on:** March 01, 2016, 12:12:06 AM »

Quote from: Robsessed86;65045

I'm curious in what ways does the lobo ride different. Is it different handling or center of gravity or what?

I mash desert terrain at extended high speeds at extended periods of time. This is where the lobo is on top for me. It is the most stable, comfortable and predictable. At such a pace, the Walsh wanders too much and wants to eject me, and the JP just does not feel safe at all. It gives me confidence to ride it too as I feel I can ride it past what my skill will allow, and needless to say, it had saved me countless times when I did actually ran out of skill as I encountered a variety of obstacles with so little time to react.