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Offline Morse250r

Thoughts and or where to buy ceramic bearings
« on: March 31, 2016, 06:58:52 AM »
engine, carrier ect ! what's the thoughts or place to find them ?
Packard built puma "bad investment"
88 rb racing duner
Trx 70\'s
Atc 125

Offline jcs003

Thoughts and or where to buy ceramic bearings
« Reply #1 on: March 31, 2016, 07:19:30 AM »
I always wanted to try these:

http://www.microblueracing.com/

john

Offline JohnTabata1

Thoughts and or where to buy ceramic bearings
« Reply #2 on: March 31, 2016, 07:55:05 AM »
World Wide bearings is where some racers get them. I don't use ceramic bearings

Offline rablack21

Thoughts and or where to buy ceramic bearings
« Reply #3 on: March 31, 2016, 08:42:59 AM »

Offline dem3500

Thoughts and or where to buy ceramic bearings
« Reply #4 on: March 31, 2016, 10:35:16 AM »
why would you want ceramic bearings? i understand there a low coefficient of friction but damn there expensive!
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Offline Rupp250

Thoughts and or where to buy ceramic bearings
« Reply #5 on: March 31, 2016, 10:36:14 AM »
I looked into for my Ziggy build. It is $$$$ for them. Plus I plan on this bike running at the dunes and hills. Ceramics do not like dirt getting past the seals.
My next build will be track only and I will look into it more then.
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Offline rablack21

Thoughts and or where to buy ceramic bearings
« Reply #6 on: March 31, 2016, 11:18:16 AM »
I like the Micro blue idea myself. Cool stuff.

Offline JohnTabata1

Thoughts and or where to buy ceramic bearings
« Reply #7 on: March 31, 2016, 11:22:03 AM »
Word on the street is its not a good idea to use them in two stroke motor

Online Jerry Hall

Thoughts and or where to buy ceramic bearings
« Reply #8 on: March 31, 2016, 11:54:05 AM »
I can think of a lot of other areas to spend money on a engine package that would yield much larger gains than what would be spent on the microscopic gains obtained from ceramic bearings.

Offline JohnTabata1

Thoughts and or where to buy ceramic bearings
« Reply #9 on: March 31, 2016, 11:56:00 AM »
Quote from: Jerry Hall;66171
I can think of a lot of other areas to spend money on a engine package that would yield much larger gains than what would be spent on the microscopic gains obtained from ceramic bearings.


You are on the same page as me. Example...REM

Online Jerry Hall

Thoughts and or where to buy ceramic bearings
« Reply #10 on: March 31, 2016, 02:19:48 PM »
A few examples

Chassis


A guy buys ceramic bearings and then installs an o-ring chain.

A guy buys ceramic bearings but will not oil his chain every moto.

A guy buys ceramic bearings and installs an outer ware lid on his air box.

A guy buys ceramic bearings and has a brake rotor that is wavy.

A guy buys ceramic bearings and then runs his tires a few psi low.

A guy buys ceramic bearings but his chain is rubbing a slightly miss-aligned chain guide.


Engine

A guy buys ceramic bearings but installs the wrong pipe or silencer for his porting because he got a deal on the exhaust.

A guy buys ceramic bearings and is one or more main jets off.

A guy bought a well developed engine package but installs the wrong dome so that he can run pump gas.

A guy buys ceramic bearings but does not run have his air scoops installed correctly and the engine runs 10 deg warmer than it could.


Both list can go on and on.  My point I am trying to make is:  I would not spend the money on ceramic bearings unless you have done everything possible to maximize all the other areas of the engine that are responsible for producing power and reduce all other areas where parasitic losses can be minimized.

Offline Morse250r

Thoughts and or where to buy ceramic bearings
« Reply #11 on: March 31, 2016, 03:18:57 PM »
I agree they are a lot of money, but im at the point im buying ti bolts.  there isn't much left to do on my bike its under 200lbs .. I was thinking more in the carrier area too ?
Packard built puma "bad investment"
88 rb racing duner
Trx 70\'s
Atc 125

Offline JohnTabata1

Thoughts and or where to buy ceramic bearings
« Reply #12 on: March 31, 2016, 05:40:40 PM »
Quote from: Morse250r;66179
I agree they are a lot of money, but im at the point im buying ti bolts.  there isn't much left to do on my bike its under 200lbs .. I was thinking more in the carrier area too ?


That's a good place to loose weight 😉

Offline Wrench U

Thoughts and or where to buy ceramic bearings
« Reply #13 on: March 31, 2016, 05:44:47 PM »
If u look into it u will find that most ceramic bearings are hybrid style, steel cage, ceramic balls. With that being said jerry hit it right on the head, lots more performance benefits in minimizing rolling resistance/drag. Titanium is cheap relatively speaking when u start talking full ceramic bearings. U will also find that u cannot get every engine bearing in ceramic, so that defeats the purpose. Ceramic also still use a steel cage riveted together and do not like any contaminants cause or tight tolerances. With that being said I would use them on spindle mounted front wheels with titanium nut and cotter pin, only because it's easy to check and that's going to be popular/inexpensive size to run. My to cents, I'd rather REM the internals, way more gains per cost.

Online havinnoj

Thoughts and or where to buy ceramic bearings
« Reply #14 on: March 31, 2016, 06:22:01 PM »
Quote from: Morse250r;66179
there isn't much left to do on my bike its under 200lbs .. I was thinking more in the carrier area too ?

Quote from: JohnTabata1;66181
That's a good place to loose weight ��

I'd start loosing it off my gut at that point!

 

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