starting my build

[DOUGLAS]

I will do all that thank you

[FerrinMotorsports]

Will this build ever leave your garage???....(JK)....LOL

[DOUGLAS]

hahahahahahahahaha it will. but there better not be any mud when I take it out

[jcs003]

hahahahahahahahaha it will. but there better not be any mud when I take it out

there is a benefit to all that polished and Pc'd parts.  they clean off much easier than the alternative.

[DOUGLAS]

06 spindle conversion 87 250r. here's what I came up with.

[DOUGLAS]

with out the shock in the a arms travel is limited to the angle from the 450 spindle on the tie rod end. if i bottom out the front end with out bending the tie rod the tie rod ends hit there maximum travel. this will barly allow the shock to compress fully.so by adding the bends it changes the range of the suspension for the shock to travel with out it hitting the maximum on the tie rod end

[jcs003]

with out the shock in the a arms travel is limited to the angle from the 450 spindle on the tie rod end. if i bottom out the front end with out bending the tie rod the tie rod ends hit there maximum travel. this will barly allow the shock to compress fully.so by adding the bends it changes the range of the suspension for the shock to travel with out it hitting the maximum on the tie rod end

looks like you just added two increased points of failure.  those OEM tie rods are weak to start, as I have bent several in the past.  maybe if they are made with chromoly, and properly heat treated, they would suffice.

john

[hickwheeler]

I'm not sure if I'm saying this right. But putting the bends in the tierod has changed nothing to what will happen when you cycle the suspension. They are still at the same plane. You just made it to were you are not connecting them with a straight line

[Burns363R]

You are correct Hickwheeler.  He has not changed the plane.  He would need to raise the flag on the stem or lower it on the spindle to get rid of the bump steer.  You can do a curley que between those tie rod ends and it wont change anything. 

Those tie rod ends are significantly weaker than stock.

As for the comments on the 450r stuff being an upgrade, I would really want to see the racing background of the people using them.  Average joes that dont push there bikes may not noticed bump steer like someone that really pushes the limits. 

I guarantee if you went to any A class /Pro am/Pro rider, and cycle there suspension there will not be any bump steer.  It does make a big difference on the handling of the bike if your doing anything but putting around.

[DOUGLAS]

sorry I thought the same thing on the plane as well and after doing the bends it puts the range of motion on a different plane. I only bent I tie rod to experiment. and swaping out the tie rods does make a difference in comparison. I went back and forth with putting in the bent on and the straight one here is the set up moving forward

[DOUGLAS]

I am thanking you all for your support and knowledge to help me along the way

[DOUGLAS]

great news arlen called me today he is assembling my motor. but I will have to wait to have it shipped. also my swing arm gas tank and other parts will be finished tomorrow. tonight I leave on a 10 day vacation 2 days in florida and 8 day eastern carribean cruise. Cant wait to leave. Can't wait to get back

[DOUGLAS]

and another piece of the puzzle has arrived

[Sand_Blaster]

Sick man. I wish mine was as nice as yours. Keep the updates coming.

[DOUGLAS]

they are all nice we are lucky we enjoy riding no matter what we have, thank you