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Offline wilkin250r

Sealing the pipe
« on: February 13, 2018, 12:58:37 PM »
Anybody ever find a really good way to seal the pipe?

I've got an O-ring exhaust flange, new silicone O-rings, they just end up burnt, brittle, and eventually break and leak.  Same at the pipe joint.

I've had good luck (once) with copper sealant, but I disassembled that pipe years ago, and every time I've tried the copper sealant since, it too has leaked.

Anybody ever have 100% success with something?  Like, actual, multiple successes, not just once?

Offline jcs003

Re: Sealing the pipe
« Reply #1 on: February 13, 2018, 01:22:47 PM »
copper RTV

Offline hickwheeler

Re: Sealing the pipe
« Reply #2 on: February 13, 2018, 01:35:20 PM »
At the flange. Get KTM orings for 250 300. They are thicker and will make a tight fit. Use grease to help getting head pipe over them
88 hybrid 431 puma
88 (BOF Build) stock motor and oem 89 plastics
More in the works

Offline The norm

Re: Sealing the pipe
« Reply #3 on: February 13, 2018, 01:58:37 PM »
I gave up on o-rings and use copper or red rtv.
1986 Trx250r-- Hybrid Engineering 391(Good bye super 310)
1986 Trx250r-- Hybrid Engineering  ported stock 86 cylinder
1986 Trx250r-- craigslist engine with unknown ported 89 cylinder.
1985 Atc250r-- Needs a lot of work (Super 310's new home)

Offline wilkin250r

Re: Sealing the pipe
« Reply #4 on: February 13, 2018, 02:24:57 PM »
Maybe that's the key.  Forget the O-rings, just fill the whole thing up with copper RTV, and let it work into the O-ring grooves.  Disassembly might be more difficult, but maybe that's a small price to pay.

It's kinda hard to compare specs, because Silicone o-rings just have a temperature rating of 400F.  Copper RTV has 700F intermittent temperature rating, they're not speaking the same language, I'm not sure how to translate.

Offline jwraymond6

Re: Sealing the pipe
« Reply #5 on: February 13, 2018, 04:08:46 PM »
High temp copper rtv is what I use and let it set up over night
87 363 sphynx built by Pete @ hybrid engineering

Offline wilkin250r

Re: Sealing the pipe
« Reply #6 on: February 13, 2018, 05:32:32 PM »
I'm also not ruling out that I might just be an idiot.

I used copper RTV and silicone o-rings, but I also used a set of FMF springs, I didn't realize they were absolute garbage.  I should have known, because I had an FMF spring break on me about ten years ago, but I thought it was a fluke.  This time around, I used FMF springs almost exclusively (I think I had 1 oem spring on there), and they all broke, so that probably let the pipe move around a bit too much, causing my leaks.

The pipe never actually came off, so I just replace the springs with new OEM, but I didn't pull it off and re-assemble with new RTV.    Now it's leaking all over the place.

I figured I'd ask before I pulled it off again.  I'm thinking the REAL answer is less about RTV, and more about "Don't be a stupid, lazy piece of crap.  Pull the pipe and do it correctly."

Offline rk88r

Re: Sealing the pipe
« Reply #7 on: February 13, 2018, 10:03:49 PM »
I dream of v-band clamps at every  connection. 
\'99 Laeger narrow, cr link, +3+1 protrax, Peps, with a LED 363
\'88 265 pv peps
One other \'88

 

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