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Offline The norm

CR ignition flywheel weight
« on: February 16, 2020, 12:18:07 PM »
Talking with Pete the other day,  he mentioned that I might enjoy a flywheel weight on the 391 as I am big for my age lol. He talked about using aluminum and machining the largest diameter weight that will fit under the stator cover. He also said that I should keep the CR flywheel with the weight at roughly the same weight as the trx flywheel.  So basically I will be adding more leverage with the larger diameter, but keeping it close to stock weight.
So my question to you fine gentlemen is this.... If you are running a CR ignition system on your big bore R are you also using a flywheel weight? If so what weight size/brand/style are you using?
1986 Trx250r-- Hybrid Engineering 391(Good bye super 310)
1986 Trx250r-- Hybrid Engineering  ported stock 86 cylinder
1986 Trx250r-- craigslist engine with unknown ported 89 cylinder.
1985 Atc250r-- Needs a lot of work (Super 310's new home)

Offline supernutt

Re: CR ignition flywheel weight
« Reply #1 on: February 16, 2020, 07:44:52 PM »
bought a 14oz stealthy. Cant comment on if it made a difference or not I never rode this engine before I installed it. 
86r 310 pro-x C-Leigh ported TRX5 CR ignition HLS shocks 38pwk
97 Laeger XC narrow CR500 link +4  t-pin
89 trx250r PEP ported ct mid pipe

Offline croat1

Re: CR ignition flywheel weight
« Reply #2 on: February 16, 2020, 09:18:05 PM »
If I recall 10-12 oz. weights are what guys typically run on Big bores.  I think the preferred weight is a Moose/MSR.

Joe
A few Laegers
1987 oem
2025 Yamaha Raptor 700R
Mission: Back to Basics.  On the trail or dune

Offline hickwheeler

Re: CR ignition flywheel weight
« Reply #3 on: February 16, 2020, 11:53:16 PM »
I have not been running a weight. I did years ago. But didn't really notice a difference.
88 hybrid 431 puma
88 (BOF Build) stock motor and oem 89 plastics
More in the works

Offline Hawaiiysr

Re: CR ignition flywheel weight
« Reply #4 on: February 17, 2020, 12:00:41 AM »
No weight for me in a stock jug. Revs were definitely a noticeable difference from stock. I'll find out this year as far as big bore and report back

Offline Michael88R

Re: CR ignition flywheel weight
« Reply #5 on: February 17, 2020, 10:02:05 AM »
I think Kyle burnham uses a weight on his Mx 363.  Not sure about his xc 370.  He said it was to “tame it down”
88’ R Esr 350 CEO, Esr trx5 pipe
88’ R Esr ported stock cylinder, waiting for rebuild when my son gets a little older

Offline Michael88R

Re: CR ignition flywheel weight
« Reply #6 on: February 17, 2020, 10:13:05 AM »
LED recommends a flywheel weight for the hpi ignition on 350cc and up
88’ R Esr 350 CEO, Esr trx5 pipe
88’ R Esr ported stock cylinder, waiting for rebuild when my son gets a little older

Offline The norm

Re: CR ignition flywheel weight
« Reply #7 on: February 17, 2020, 12:11:54 PM »
Pete was saying I would like a weight because of how I ride. I love going down in those gnarly tree shots at the dunes and I always ride a gear high. So I think a weight will reduce clutching it in the trees.
I have a 96 cr250 that I ride in very tight nasty single track trails. It has a 12oz flywheel weight. In switchbacks a cr250 would suck without a weight.
1986 Trx250r-- Hybrid Engineering 391(Good bye super 310)
1986 Trx250r-- Hybrid Engineering  ported stock 86 cylinder
1986 Trx250r-- craigslist engine with unknown ported 89 cylinder.
1985 Atc250r-- Needs a lot of work (Super 310's new home)

Offline Burns363R

Re: CR ignition flywheel weight
« Reply #8 on: February 17, 2020, 02:48:58 PM »
I run weights on my CR setups.  I think i have a stealthy 10oz on my 370.
TRX 363R 02- Laeger Narrow Frame/CR500 Link, Motowoz Suspension, Roll Design +4 LT Arms,RPM Dominator +4 axle, LED 363 MX, LED 350G Pipe, 38 A/S CR Ignition

TRX 370R 86- Laeger Std,ISF-No Link Swinger, JD MGC LT Arms) Motowoz Shocks, LED 370/350D pipe, 38 PWK Carb, CR Ignition

Offline The norm

Re: CR ignition flywheel weight
« Reply #9 on: February 17, 2020, 04:12:36 PM »
I run weights on my CR setups.  I think i have a stealthy 10oz on my 370.

Do you feel it makes the engine not rev? I saw your vids of nailing the hole shot so probably not... I think a weight would help rolling on throttle out of corners or in my case dodging trees on crappy hillclimbs lol
1986 Trx250r-- Hybrid Engineering 391(Good bye super 310)
1986 Trx250r-- Hybrid Engineering  ported stock 86 cylinder
1986 Trx250r-- craigslist engine with unknown ported 89 cylinder.
1985 Atc250r-- Needs a lot of work (Super 310's new home)

Offline Michael88R

Re: CR ignition flywheel weight
« Reply #10 on: February 17, 2020, 05:24:52 PM »
I was having trouble in those three shots last year.  Normally I’d go down in second gear clutch a little and climb out in second or even up shift to third. Last year my bike just felt dead on the bottom end and I was having to shift down to first and even stay in first sometimes.  Not sure what is going on.  Maybe I’m just getting too fat.
88’ R Esr 350 CEO, Esr trx5 pipe
88’ R Esr ported stock cylinder, waiting for rebuild when my son gets a little older

Offline The norm

Re: CR ignition flywheel weight
« Reply #11 on: February 17, 2020, 05:38:19 PM »
Too fat lol!
1986 Trx250r-- Hybrid Engineering 391(Good bye super 310)
1986 Trx250r-- Hybrid Engineering  ported stock 86 cylinder
1986 Trx250r-- craigslist engine with unknown ported 89 cylinder.
1985 Atc250r-- Needs a lot of work (Super 310's new home)

Offline The norm

Re: CR ignition flywheel weight
« Reply #12 on: February 17, 2020, 05:39:51 PM »
Those that have the cr flywheel weight... Can someone measure the od and the thickness? If I go with a weight I want it to be the largest diameter that can fit inside the cover
1986 Trx250r-- Hybrid Engineering 391(Good bye super 310)
1986 Trx250r-- Hybrid Engineering  ported stock 86 cylinder
1986 Trx250r-- craigslist engine with unknown ported 89 cylinder.
1985 Atc250r-- Needs a lot of work (Super 310's new home)

Offline desertR

Re: CR ignition flywheel weight
« Reply #13 on: February 17, 2020, 08:07:14 PM »
Flywheels are designed to provide momentum, and high reving motors generally use/need less flywheel, then a similar motor. A heavier flywheel should help with holshots, tree shoots ,and the like, Heavier is good, unless it comprises the ability to rev. Larger displacement should require a heavier flywheel, but in some instances it isn't as important. We use lighter flywheels on short tracks, autocross, gymkhana events where acceleration out of the corner is paramount, heavier flywheels on heavier vehicles, and more street type use. I would think that on a single cylinder engine, that flywheel mass is very important, but limited because of placement with-in the assembly.
desertR

Offline 2ndmoto

Re: CR ignition flywheel weight
« Reply #14 on: February 18, 2020, 12:21:28 AM »
I did a lightened flywheel on my Banshee years ago and did not like it. Was easy to stall. Locking up the rear brakes to slide into a corner, if I was not heavy on the clutch, it would insta-kill the motor.

It made the motor light switchy...but at that time in my life, I enjoyed that. However my small forearms could not keep up with all the extra clutch work.

 

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