ISO Skat-Trak Haulers and maybe a swingarm

[evaneyeball]

I've put this off as long as I can, been rocking the 8 paddle haulers off of my old 400ex years ago that have zero life left but never really cared cause they worked. But now I'm getting beat up hills cause I'm spinning so much so time to change. Dont really know what paddles to go with I know either 9 or 10 paddle haulers dont know what size so suggestions on that would be great and if you got a pair you want to sell great im in the Portland Oregon area if nobody does im still on face book market place all the time ill find something. And I've still got a stock swingarm so if you've got a cheap +4 or something, I dont care brand but if I can't find one I'll just extend my stock one. For a motor I've got a 350 ceo dune ported by arlen and a 350g pipe nothing crazy just need more grip for the hills.

[broken1]

Personally I wouldn't go more than 9 paddles if you still want to be able to throw it around. Tire size preference is like oil preference, everyone has their favorite, I like 20" paddle tires on 10" wheels on the sand.

[Michael88R]

I really like the 21x12x8 with 68” roll out that I got last year.

[The norm]

So I have been a hauler guy for ever and refused to even consider anything else. Last year my good friend Kevin found a set of near new un-cut 21-12x8 18 paddle padla brats for a screaming deal. I thought for the price it couldn't hurt to try them. It took me a few days to find the right air pressure for the best handling and traction. I now prefer the padla brats over the 22-10x8 10 paddle extreme haulers. The haulers are all hook up and have zero maneuverability. If I feel like drag racing I definitely throw the haulers on, but for play riding (including tree shots) I run the padla brats. They are a molded tire but are lighter than a bead to bead buffed hauler. Lighter tire means less rotational mass which means more power.
Anyway just my opinion. Tire choice, transmission oil choice,  and premix choice has been debated since the beginning so take everyone's opinion into consideration, but ultimately you are the guy piloting your R and you need to find a tire that suits you.
Loren

[The norm]

To your question about swingarm length. The longer the swingarm the worse the R will maneuver. I have a +3 on my R. My motor is a fairly powerful hybrid engineering 391. I can wheelie when I want and also keep the front wheels on the ground when I want. My R definitely feels less nimble in the trails with the +3, but with my big ass on the R I need a little help coming out of tree shots. My boys both ride where I ride and they have stock length swingarms. So in the end rider agility and ability can overcome a stock length swingarm.
Loren

[Michael88R]

I’ve been wanting to try a set of padla brats too.

Loren, yours are 18 paddle but comp cut?  I’d probably just get a 9 paddle and I’m a little afraid of comp cut.  I have bad luck with paddles leaking.

[broken1]

I’ve been wanting to try a set of padla brats too.

Loren, yours are 18 paddle but comp cut?  I’d probably just get a 9 paddle and I’m a little afraid of comp cut.  I have bad luck with paddles leaking.

There full un-cut 18 paddle's. I have a set of the cut padla brats which has around 1/3rd of each paddle removed in a staggered pattern which I believe are the most common style & there considered a 9 paddle. Gene has a set that are actually "comp" cut & they have not only staggered cuts on the paddles like mine but his also has cutting done to the carcass to make them even lighter.... Awhile back I scored a nice used set of skat trak 20x10x10 10 paddle edges that I really like as well. Also the sand skate 2's work really good when the sand isn't super dry & loose.

[The norm]

Michael they are 18 paddle un-cut. So not comp cut or staggered cut. Since the carcass hasn't been cut down to the cords the paddles really aren't that aggressive. They float fantastically and when you shift your weight back they hook up.
Loren

[Michael88R]

You mentioned they were lighter than skats so I figured they had to be comp cut.  I saw Gene’s staggered brats last time I was in Oregon.  Wicked looking.

[hickwheeler]

I would agree with Loren brats are definitely a fun tire for riding around. I think mine work a little better for me racing. Because I really have a hard time keeping the front down with my 10 paddle haulers. It was better when I ran Ryan's 9 paddle ultralights. Witch I felt were comparable to my brats.

[evaneyeball]

I think I'll try to find a set of tall 9 or 10 paddle haulers or padla brats really whatever I an find cheapest. But would I possibly be alright using a any of those paddles and a stock swing arm or would it try to bring the front end up too much I do do alot of tree shots and idiot holes so thats the main reason I was going to go extended. I'm not too worried about maneuverability cause I just have to keep up with extended banshees in the trails.

[broken1]

Unfortunately finding haulers or brats for cheap won't be easy but keeping up with extended banshee's on trails now that will be easy. A stock R probably wouldn't have much problem with that... Imo leave the swingarm stock length & don't get more than a 9 paddle & if it lifts the front end just air up the tires for less traction.

[The norm]

I am quite a bit larger than you Evan and my engine is putting out more power(391). I do every tree shot with my +3 swingarm. I believe Gene has a +2 and he also has a more powerful engine than me (431 puma). Gene is also a bit larger than you. Gene runs padla brats also. In the end rider skill trumps aftermarket parts!

[hickwheeler]

When I got my 88. It was a 330. Stock lenght and could climb stuff should not of tried. Sometimes just have to kiss the bumper when riding.

[evaneyeball]

Well damn loren after market parts are all I can rely on due to lack fo rider skill lol hence my saying of zero finesse and a lot of throttle😂. I'll leave it stock length for now i got my first ride coming up in March ill see if I like it then. but I messaged a few people about some 20x10x10 9 paddles and used 10 paddles ill see what comes of that. I have 21x10x10s right now I dont know if I dont like it ill change it but I will need to re gear it I got stock size sprockets on it now.