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Online Jerry Hall

Re: 2001 cr250r ignition swap question
« Reply #15 on: June 11, 2022, 09:00:07 PM »
................................. I ran it a little and the timing mark on the plug wasn’t quite right so I removed the little plate so I could retard it a tad more. That put the heat mark right on the bend of the plug strap.

If this method works for you and it makes the most power without causing detonation I would continue using it as a tuning tool.

I have been modifying and tuning two stroke engines for a little over 50 years and have not found this method to be an indicator that an optimum timing setting has been reached and is a safe timing setting.  I try to use a method when tuning an engine that will indicate whether there was a power increase or decrease when changing the timing or jetting watching the top of the piston, combustion chamber, and spark for signs of the onset of very mild detonation.  The methods I use to determine a change in power are: the dyno, the drag striip where E. T. and MPH is recorded and roll on acceleration testing using two vehicles of similar performance, on a surface of maximum traction and compare how the acceleration changes as tuning changes are made.

I want to play the devils advocate for a minute..

My testing has shown the heat mark that you mentioned on the ground strap will move to different parts of the ground strap with different styles of spark plugs of the same heat range with the same timing setting and making exactly the same power.  The total length of the ground strap, the cross sectional area of the ground strap, the amount of mass in the threaded shell where the ground strap attaches, the alloy that the ground strap is made of and the combustion temperature are the main parameters that affect the temperature of the ground strap.  The heat mark on the ground strap will also move with a change in coolant temperature and alloy the cylinder head is made of.


Offline JOEY11

Re: 2001 cr250r ignition swap question
« Reply #16 on: June 12, 2022, 01:06:30 PM »
I’m just learning from what I read on forums and apply it if it sounds legit. Probably not the best way but I don’t know anyone with much knowledge of 2 strokes. I could see the coloring on the strap move as a changed the timing and it didn’t have any detonation that I could hear (not that I would probably notice it) and it didn’t run worse. I’m not looking for max performance and don’t race competitively so I guess what I’ve done so far has kept it from melting a piston after 1.5yrs riding every weekend on pump gas has worked. I didn’t know all this different things could change the mark on the strap so it’s really not a good way to adjust timing if you want it to be right. Thanks for taking the time to write that and I think there’s a lot of guys that tune like I have.

Offline ct350trx

Re: 2001 cr250r ignition swap question
« Reply #17 on: June 13, 2022, 02:38:56 AM »
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Offline gentner8

Re: 2001 cr250r ignition swap question
« Reply #18 on: June 13, 2022, 08:18:37 AM »
I have also read about the heat strap mark, but, Jerry does make a lot of sense.  Not all plugs are the same, and indeed, the mark should change (in my thoughts anyway) with a different temp plug carrying the heat away more efficiently.  But Im far from any type of 2 stroke tuner.  I know enough to keep myself away from the shop in general, but that ain't sayin' much...

 

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