I thought I would post this up for you all to see, thanks Jon for posting the pics for me. I finally got my first deer during bow season this evening 10/13/13, shot her at 15 yards and stopped her in her tracks no tracking at all. I had deer around me all evening mainly bucks but none would come in close enough to shoot. I had a nice 6 or 8 point at like 50 yards for about a half an hour but no clean shot with the bow. I'm really excited and going back out tomorrow, my nephew will be with me on Friday for opening day of shot gun season and I really hope he gets one. Where he is sitting all have been coming rite to him the past 2 weeks, he is very excited and anxious for Friday to get here.