Author Topic: Laeger a-arms (Read 7639 times)

Pj Uptmor · « **on:** October 24, 2013, 01:30:28 AM »

Where can you get bottom a-arms ball joints for a laeger a-arms?
Thank you
Paul

rk88r · « **Reply #1 on:** October 24, 2013, 04:40:00 PM »

Laeger or your local auto parts store. There was a thread on part #'s recently.

89Longrod · « **Reply #2 on:** October 24, 2013, 07:09:29 PM »

Yup you can just use Moog ball joints and they are even grease-able and very cheap compared to ordering thru laegers. Here is a link from the other site with the information you need.

http://www.trx250r.net/forum/suspension-chassis-braking/13738-balljoint-cross-reference-everything-you-ever-need-know.html

bnau267 · « **Reply #3 on:** October 24, 2013, 07:32:50 PM »

Laegers and the other top end brands running 16mm use FRAP brand ball joints. Most of the 14mm (early years) use OCAP brand. The Moogs are nice and certainly can withstand a beating but beware that the dust cap is not sealed to the tie rod. This design can let mud/water in pretty easily when the suspension is fully extended. I just went through this. Ended up finding 14mm OCAP through Autoplicity. Also, the 16mm Moogs are a perfect match....just didn't like the dust cap. I didn't like the 14mm Moogs (OCAP equivalent) as the threads do not come up close enough to the tie rod body adding about an extra 1/4" to each side.
Shipping was very fast with both distributors below...

These guys have best price on Moogs...
http://www.autopartsandstuff.com/
These guys have best price on OCAP...
http://autoplicity.com/

Pumashine · « **Reply #4 on:** October 24, 2013, 09:07:52 PM »

Quote from: 89Longrod;15651

Yup you can just use Moog ball joints and they are even grease-able and very cheap compared to ordering thru laegers. Here is a link from the other site with the information you need.

Many here can't go to that old site. So here is the info

Quote from: Langbolt;101787

Wow!

This has All the listings with Thread sizes, tapers etc,etc

So for all those looking for Ball Joints for their Aftermarket A-Arms...look no further!

Eg:Look up ES3045RL ....these are common for some.

http://www.moog-suspension-parts.co...ie_Rod_Ends.asp

Those having difficulty....

http://www.moog-suspension-parts.co...d=MOOG-ES3045RL

Quote from: Lonewulf71;172657

I had actually ordered some Moog ball joints for my Laeger's from Amazon, but they didn't fit right. Mark Baldwin told me that the Moog ball joints don't have enough travel for the Laeger A-Arms that I have. Maybe I ordered the wrong ones, I don't know.

I actually ordered ball joints from Laeger (for my Laeger A-Arms), and they are not the same style that they used to use or that they show in the picture (imagine that!) so I ended up having to send them back, and Scott told me he would refund my money but didn't do it until I filed a claim with Paypal over a week and a half after he got the ball joints back.

I really try to give people the benefit of the doubt, and give them the chance to make things right.
IMO unless you are sure you have the right part you are better off ordering from someone like Carlos or Mark Baldwin who know the 250R and know what you are talking about.

Quote from: Langbolt;172659

These are the ones I used for my Burgards that were M14x1.5.

http://www.moog-suspension-parts.com/proddetail.asp?prod=MOOG-ES2096R

They're $27ea and they come with a grease fitting

89Longrod · « **Reply #5 on:** October 24, 2013, 10:47:28 PM »

Sorry Puma forgot about that I just was trying to help the guy out thanks for posting the contents of the link! Thats what ill do in the future.

Pj Uptmor · « **Reply #6 on:** October 24, 2013, 11:18:22 PM »

Thank you all for the information. I call auto parts store in town tomorrow morning.
I think I will also call Baldwin racing.

Thank you
Paul

bnau267 · « **Reply #7 on:** October 25, 2013, 07:01:57 PM »

They might be able to point you to a non-atv dealer (auto parts whole seller).
http://balljointsrus.com/

You can figure out the PN by using this site...
http://www.splashndirt.com/pages/en/catalog/index.asp?sopt=opt2&search1=Frap+Ball-Joints&Submit23=GO

bnau267 · « **Reply #8 on:** October 25, 2013, 07:05:25 PM »

If you are going to buy new from a ATV shop...I'd suggest these guys. They are local to me and I can say that they are nice folks to deal with who make bang up products.
http://www.jbatvracing.com/#!__parts

Langbolt · « **Reply #9 on:** October 25, 2013, 07:21:00 PM »

Hey guys I'M HERE! lets put a list together of the balljoints and i can list the appropriate Part #'s
I need to know:
Size & pitch of the thread (attaching to the end of the A-Arm)
Manufacturer of A-arm (with NEW or OLD style added)

Then I'll create a new posting and then Tony can make it a STICKY for us all to enjoy!

Sound like a plan ?

jfwyatt1 · « **Reply #10 on:** October 25, 2013, 08:02:52 PM »

i drilled and tapped my laeger lower arms for the 16mm balljoints from ricky stator. it works great and didnt affect strength of arm at all i had a local shop that does tube chassis for drag cars put the arms in a jig 2drill and tap them their fab guy said he wouldnt worry about any strength loss. only cost me $50 for both lower balljoints and $25 to have them do it in a jig. he said he wouldnt do the uppers as they dont have as much meat on them where the balljoint goes. and having the different balljoints top and bottom dosent affect any of thr suspension travel.

Langbolt · « **Reply #11 on:** October 27, 2013, 11:42:34 AM »

AWESOME Dan!

Now that leads us to this:

http://www.atvsonly.co.uk/products/chassissusphand/FRAPATVSONLY.html

and on this side of the pond...for OEM & Aftermarket

http://www.splashndirt.com/pages/en/catalog/index.asp?ID=1939&sopt=optgroupdetail

Click on the part# and it takes you to a page with a diagram with full dimensions.

05450r · « **Reply #12 on:** October 27, 2013, 12:14:55 PM »

The Frap ones are really nice!!