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Offline udontknowme

pumashine's ftz cylinder
« Reply #15 on: May 22, 2014, 10:42:06 PM »
rockymountain has them dowels. $1.24 each + $8 shipp. about 3days to your house
to much power is almost enough

Offline patman13mia

pumashine's ftz cylinder
« Reply #16 on: May 22, 2014, 10:44:53 PM »
nice call!! will be orderin those!! thanks for all your help guys

Offline Pumashine

pumashine's ftz cylinder
« Reply #17 on: May 22, 2014, 10:53:13 PM »
Quote from: patman13mia;34612
nice call!! will be orderin those!! thanks for all your help guys
 I have the dowels, spacers and anything else he needs. The head protrudes .030" down inside the head gasket. This would crash big time. I can send the 3mm and 5mm spacer with dowels tomorrow.
Puma 408, Puma 431,  Pilot 412, Puma 431, Mini-tooth 486 Trx450r
89mm  Mini tooth Shearer in frame pipe chromed! With Cascade  Q

Offline patman13mia

pumashine's ftz cylinder
« Reply #18 on: May 22, 2014, 10:57:47 PM »
jeeze tony your the man!! your like the coc but with garanteed products!! lol. seems like ya got tons of parts!! pm me the shipping cost and whatever else you need. cant thank you enough

Offline Pumashine

pumashine's ftz cylinder
« Reply #19 on: May 22, 2014, 11:04:27 PM »
Quote from: patman13mia;34615
jeeze tony your the man!! your like the coc but with garanteed products!! lol. seems like ya got tons of parts!!
He has parts to sell, I have parts to ride. The difference is I ride and he does not. He makes money on you guys and I just try to help my brethren enjoy their toys. Making money does not mean anything to me!
Puma 408, Puma 431,  Pilot 412, Puma 431, Mini-tooth 486 Trx450r
89mm  Mini tooth Shearer in frame pipe chromed! With Cascade  Q

Offline patman13mia

pumashine's ftz cylinder
« Reply #20 on: May 22, 2014, 11:25:06 PM »
Quote from: Pumashine;34617
He has parts to sell, I have parts to ride. The difference is I ride and he does not. He makes money on you guys and I just try to help my brethren enjoy their toys. Making money does not mean anything to me!
hell yea!!! your a damn good man!! cant wait to meet and ride with ya

Offline traxman

pumashine's ftz cylinder
« Reply #21 on: May 23, 2014, 12:29:38 AM »
Quote from: Pumashine;34617
He has parts to sell, I have parts to ride. The difference is I ride and he does not. He makes money on you guys and I just try to help my brethren enjoy their toys. Making money does not mean anything to me!


I can attest to that last statement. I bought 4 items from him and it the bill came in $75 dollars short of what it should of been. Gotta love the brethren that can help like this.. Thanks for all the help you've given me and everyone else on this forum Tony.

Offline Jerry Hall

pumashine's ftz cylinder
« Reply #22 on: May 23, 2014, 01:05:04 AM »
Quote from: patman13mia;34588
so tony was so cool enough to help me out and send me a cylinder so i can get to riding while i wait on my esr cylinder from neil at cleigh racing. nice lookin cylinder i must say. check out the pic down below. does anybody know how to take these little inserts out. one side has them and the other doesnt. i dont want to damage them cause they are not mine.

Insert something round and solid like a bit or transfer punch that will fit snugly inside the dowel into the dowel.  Grip the dowel with a good pair of pliers, rotate the dowel back and forth while pulling. The snug fitting rod on the inside of the dowel will keep it from collapsing and distorting.  It usually takes me about 30 seconds to remove them without damaging them .  Sometimes a little penetrating oil used on the dowel will also make it come out a little easier.


DO NOT USE HEAT.  It will weaken the strength of the aluminum ears on the cylinders.

Offline Pumashine

pumashine's ftz cylinder
« Reply #23 on: May 23, 2014, 11:58:53 AM »
I'm  sittin here looking at the difference in long rod verses short rod pistons. The pin height is 3/16 of and inch higher on the long rod piston. So this piston will drop the top by 3/16. Instead you may want to use the 3/16 spacer plate cause the piston is an 87-89 design. The 86 piston matches the FTZ cylinder better on the intake side. I will send spacers and this piston. Just set what you don't use aside and I will get them from you later.
Puma 408, Puma 431,  Pilot 412, Puma 431, Mini-tooth 486 Trx450r
89mm  Mini tooth Shearer in frame pipe chromed! With Cascade  Q

Offline patman13mia

pumashine's ftz cylinder
« Reply #24 on: May 23, 2014, 01:14:51 PM »
ok that sounds good. now what size gaskets should i use with the spacer? .020 i would imagine? ill need two. i may have one here in the gasket set i got. ill have to check. will keep all the unused parts in the box ya sent me and can drop em off to ya when i come down that way

Offline Pumashine

pumashine's ftz cylinder
« Reply #25 on: May 23, 2014, 01:40:46 PM »
Quote from: patman13mia;34659
ok that sounds good. now what size gaskets should i use with the spacer? .020 i would imagine? ill need two.
There is another .020" gasket between the 3mm and 5mm spacer I am sending. The dowels are inside the piston box. You won't get it till Tuesday
Puma 408, Puma 431,  Pilot 412, Puma 431, Mini-tooth 486 Trx450r
89mm  Mini tooth Shearer in frame pipe chromed! With Cascade  Q

Offline patman13mia

pumashine's ftz cylinder
« Reply #26 on: May 23, 2014, 02:48:03 PM »
ok thanks tony. soon as i get it ill set it up and take pics

Offline Pumashine

pumashine's ftz cylinder
« Reply #27 on: May 23, 2014, 03:27:18 PM »
Quote from: patman13mia;34666
ok thanks tony. soon as i get it ill set it up and take pics
Once you get the deck height set you run the piston down to BDC and see if the top of the piston is at the bottom of the ports.
Puma 408, Puma 431,  Pilot 412, Puma 431, Mini-tooth 486 Trx450r
89mm  Mini tooth Shearer in frame pipe chromed! With Cascade  Q

Offline patman13mia

pumashine's ftz cylinder
« Reply #28 on: May 23, 2014, 08:12:33 PM »
yepp sure will.

Offline 250Racer

pumashine's ftz cylinder
« Reply #29 on: May 23, 2014, 11:33:59 PM »
In regards to the dowl removal. I sprayed some penetrating oil in there and lightly tapped them down and out with a deepwell socket. I dont remember the size but it worked sweet.

 

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