Fred, I'm not contradicting myself at all, I still believe that censoring words or bikini pics is not the right direction. What I am saying is that the members here decided that they want a family forum that children can visit and not have to read certain words or see certain pictures and by pointing that out to the guy who posted the picture does two things, it informs everyone of the censorship rules that are on this forum and it shines a light on the censorship rules that are on this forum. Do you understand ? I can re-word my reply if you don't understand where I'm coming from. These are the rules here, I challenged the rules and no one stood on my side of the debate, where were you then, what was your opinion ? We all decided its for the best of the forum to be accessible to young kids and I believe that if people are offended or don't want the kids to read even the most simplest of "curse" words then they certainly don't want a close up picture of the female sexual area.