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Offline trx88

works shocks rebuild
« Reply #15 on: September 11, 2013, 02:45:02 AM »
I am enjoying this thread

Offline Leftynanners

works shocks rebuild
« Reply #16 on: September 11, 2013, 03:54:14 AM »
Quote from: chrisr;11783
They look better than new. Looking at getting my PEPs done soon.  What did it cost you?

I bought the shocks used and the seller lied to me about a lot of things such as what they were set up for. So I had to pay for some replacement parts that I wasn't planning on buying, which increased the cost. I'm not entirely sure what the rebuild would've cost without all the extra parts. You can ask Evan though, I'm sure he would be happy to answer any questions you've got.

I am really liking this thread though. There's a ton of good info here!

Offline Eschonda

works shocks rebuild
« Reply #17 on: September 11, 2013, 11:54:46 AM »
Quote from: 05450r;11605
Well figure its probly going to cost around $100-$120 for a rebuild,another $40ish for seal kit and probly another $20-$40 for new rubber bumpers. If theres issues with a shaft theres another $100,or anything else internally cost will go up. If they need setup for you and another $40 to the rebuild price.
IMO if you get a set of 450r shocks,you definitely want/need to have them setup for you and your combination,however it would be well worth it in the end. The 450r shocks will far out perform the Works.


Fairly accurate info here^^^.. A rebuild including seals and o-rings is $170. New bumpers if needed are $20 a piece. (from what I see is only about 20% of the time). powder-coating , chroming, adding rezzy's, revalve and respring are all options, and price goes up from there.. If your shocks are dialed, and you just need a rebuild and want to do it your self. I have rebuild kits, as well as all styles and price points for Nitrogen tools, regulators ect.. listed on my ebay store right now, (soon to be on website)http://stores.ebay.com/SCHMIDTY-RACING-SUSPEN-559-804-0818  
Also adding rezzy's to emulsions will up perfomance dramatically. Adding adjustable comp rezzy's adds flexibility to vary shock performance/characteristics from the day you want to play ride, to the weekend you want to go hit the mx track.
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Offline trx88

works shocks rebuild
« Reply #18 on: September 11, 2013, 02:05:52 PM »
This is what ive gathered:

I dont know what weight springs are on these. I think works shocks springs are about 100 bucks each right? I cant just rebuild these without re springing them for my weight...
Correct? Probably the same or more for new springs on 450r shocks. At least going dual rate even more $ on that..

I can buy a set of 450r shocks that honda set up for "everyone". $250
I can rebuild my steelers at well over 100 a spring, cause they are dual rate.. plus the guts. minimum $350- 400. Easily.
I can buy a new set of steelers for $500.
I can rebuild the shocks I have on the cheap and go on the rest of my life never knowing what proper shocks feel like on 4 wheels....

AHHHHHH!

Then theirs the oem rear that I love so much

Offline Eschonda

works shocks rebuild
« Reply #19 on: September 11, 2013, 03:56:27 PM »
Works springs do not cost a $100 a piece, whereever you got that price is taking you for a ride.. depending of what you have, on there, and what arm you end up using will determine final spring rate needed..and what you have pictured are triple rate. (3) springs per shock.. And actually we can make the OEM rear shock perform very well..I wouldn't say I would go race at the National level with it.. But for the average guy on a budget, we get pretty close to, and in some cases exceed aftermarket shock performance for around 1/2 or less their cost.. We can also do custom polishing,chroming and powdercoating as well for a very reasonable price..
Live everyday like it\'s your last,because one day it will be!

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Offline trx88

works shocks rebuild
« Reply #20 on: September 11, 2013, 05:31:59 PM »
the works website?

i thought the spring and rate had more to do with rider weight

Offline trx88

works shocks rebuild
« Reply #21 on: September 11, 2013, 05:35:10 PM »
the shocks that I have pictured at the very top are the works i have, theyre dual rate.. and if i dont have to get different springs, and all i have to do is take them apart and re assemble with new parts then fill with oil and have them charged than id like to do it my self.. but ill need some helps. i want to go that route so that i know how to do it also.

do i dis assemble then determine parts or gather parts then go go

Offline Eschonda

works shocks rebuild
« Reply #22 on: September 11, 2013, 06:53:32 PM »
Quote from: trx88;11954
the shocks that I have pictured at the very top are the works i have, theyre dual rate.. and if i dont have to get different springs, and all i have to do is take them apart and re assemble with new parts then fill with oil and have them charged than id like to do it my self.. but ill need some helps. i want to go that route so that i know how to do it also.

do i dis assemble then determine parts or gather parts then go go

If you are referring to the picture , with a pair of very blown, Works performance emulsion shocks, with blue main springs, and white tender springs laying next to a red a-arm, they are triple rate.. (3 springs per shock)  There are (2) white tender springs per shock, and one (blue) mainspring.. To get them sprung correctly, you'd need to know a lot more than just rider weight.. A-arm width, type of riding you are doing, tire size, height and weight, skill level etc., all come in to play.... Also, there's a lot more to it than even just getting the spring rate correct. Piston port sizes, check valve backup spring rates, crossover collar ring gaps, etc all need to be set correctly for the shock to perform right, for your custom set-up.. If you have never done it, I can guarantee you will not be satisfied with the end result.. Like I said ealier, once they are dialed in, and you want to just do a service, the mechanically inclined guy with some basic tools can do it.. Revalving and respringing a set for your application, and not knowing what you are doing will net you lackluster or disapointing results.. Even if you don't want to send them to me, send them to a reputable suspension shop.. Honestly most customers say that after I have reworked their works shocks, they work better than they ever did new from Works. Sometimes the addage is true, that you get what you pay for...Just say'n..Evan @ SRS
« Last Edit: September 11, 2013, 07:06:12 PM by Eschonda »
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Offline fearlessfred

works shocks rebuild
« Reply #23 on: September 11, 2013, 07:10:32 PM »
the correct springs is the starting point of the correct setup.believe it or not the springs handle the biggest part of compression damping most of the work for the shock is controlling rebound.If you don't have the correct springs for your setup you are tuning around the springs and it will never be as good as it could be

Offline trx88

works shocks rebuild
« Reply #24 on: September 12, 2013, 10:27:11 AM »
Couldnt agree more with whats been said. Ive had those works for 4 years and never knew there were two soft springs per shock.
I know from reading around that there is a full blown science to suspension. I also know that from working my trucks suspension.
If the shocks ever go anywhere, your welcomed to do the work.
I completely agree that even if I could get them rebuilt at home, its pointless unless they have the springs "etc." I need.
As for riding skills I have zero. hahahahahahah
Like I said, theyre yours if you want the work.
How long does it take?

Offline trx88

works shocks rebuild
« Reply #25 on: September 12, 2013, 10:30:00 AM »
Quote from: fearlessfred;11963
the correct springs is the starting point of the correct setup.believe it or not the springs handle the biggest part of compression damping most of the work for the shock is controlling rebound.If you don't have the correct springs for your setup you are tuning around the springs and it will never be as good as it could be

Right the springs are the brute in the situation, the guts control fluid compression/rebound. The combination works together to eliminate discomfort.

Offline Eschonda

works shocks rebuild
« Reply #26 on: September 12, 2013, 08:15:22 PM »
Quote from: trx88;12023
Couldnt agree more with whats been said. Ive had those works for 4 years and never knew there were two soft springs per shock.
I know from reading around that there is a full blown science to suspension. I also know that from working my trucks suspension.
If the shocks ever go anywhere, your welcomed to do the work.
I completely agree that even if I could get them rebuilt at home, its pointless unless they have the springs "etc." I need.
As for riding skills I have zero. hahahahahahah
Like I said, theyre yours if you want the work.
How long does it take?

It would depend on a couple of variables.. A normal rebuild would take a day, or two at most from when I received them. If you end up needing some springs, I stock a number of them. If I needed to order some, then it would be probably 3-4 days.. If you want powdercoating done, figure 7-10 days..
Live everyday like it\'s your last,because one day it will be!

http://stores.ebay.com/SCHMIDTY-RACING-SUSPEN-559-804-0818

http://www.schmidtyracing.com/

Offline Eschonda

works shocks rebuild
« Reply #27 on: September 13, 2013, 11:26:16 AM »
I have a set that I just got in. I am cleaning, them and getting ready to rebuild them shortly.. I can set up them as emulsions,remote non-adjust, or remotes with big body adjustable clickers. and also with works piston, or TCS shim-syle piston.. Lots of options, and price points.. ZPS or standard triple rate..If anyone is interested, I can set them up for your application..
Live everyday like it\'s your last,because one day it will be!

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Offline 05450r

works shocks rebuild
« Reply #28 on: September 13, 2013, 11:35:00 AM »
If you dont mind me asking,whats it typically cost for the big cans?
04 450r XC
LNP Like New Parts Powder Coating

Offline Hawaiiysr

works shocks rebuild
« Reply #29 on: September 13, 2013, 12:57:36 PM »
How bjg are big cans compaired to others?

 

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